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  • #159174

    I got laid off.

  • #182420

    JuliaJayne
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    This shit just got real!

    I’m sorry – it really sucks.

  • #182423

    djk
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I am sorry to hear that, FSA. I wish you the best of luck in finding a new job soon.

  • #182424

    This shit just got real!

    Does that mean moving only what fits in the car is going to happen soon? Sounds awful, but at least you were prepared . . . thoughts are with you.

  • #182427

    Claycat
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I’m so sorry FSA!

  • #182429

    NYCPakRat
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I’m so sorry. I know exactly how you feel. Hang in there.

  • #182430

    lazycow
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Major bummer. Sorry FSA.

  • #182431

    bandicoot
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    i know how it feels ๐Ÿ™
    sorry for the suckness, and best wishes on finding something better, soonest.

  • #182435

    Sky
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    When one door shuts, another door opens….I hope!

  • #182436

    irishbell
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    so sorry, FSA.

  • #182457

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Best wishes for a new direction, FSA.

  • #182460

    Netleigh
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Sorry to hear that, hope you find something else soon.

  • #182474

    chacha1
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    bummer! I’ve been laid off twice and it sucks hard. hope you find all the support you need and a direction to a new, better job soon.

  • #182517

    ArtGal
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    P.U. That’s no fun. Although I didn’t feel like it at the time, every time I lost a job, it was for the best in the long run. I hope that is is true for you as well.

  • #182522

    Astreja
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    This shit just got real!

    Thinking about you, FSA. How’s it going today?

  • #182528

    This shit just got real!

    @Astreja

    Meh.

  • #182533

    Amy
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I was laid off the end of Jan 2009, and it took me 23 months to find another job. My new job is just part-time, and I am hoping it becomes full-time before the end of the year.

    I am older and do clerical work. I had lots of competition for the few jobs that came open during my unemployment.

    What saved me was the fact that I had already downsized my home and paid off all my debt prior to being laid off. I cannot imagine how I would have managed otherwise.

    Don’t give up hope. You’ll find something before too long.

  • #182545

    bandicoot
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    i got fired with no warning, back from a month’s unpaid leave that i voluntarily taken to help the business through a rough patch, on dec 1st 2001.
    by december 15th i had turned my hobby into a teeny tiny business.
    therage at the injustice of my firing, kept me motivated and furious for the next very tough 24 months, as we grew the business into a real going concern.
    getting fired really was the best thing that ever happened to me.
    it was the start of the bestwork i have ever had, the bestl lifestyle i have ever had, the most fun and the most satisfaction i have ever had.
    so, i keep hopeful for anyone who has ever lost their job abruptly.
    it is a shock and it is stressful, but it can also be the start of something incredible.

  • #182549

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    FSA,
    Do you work in education or a scientific field? Is there something that you could do online? Or developing scientific curriculum materials? I have found your posts very interesting and I think you could be an engaging communicator for students.

    I hope this does not seem presumptuous. You probably need a bit of time to think before you jump into anything new.

    Sending you positive thoughts from Australia.

  • #182556

    ninakk
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I’m sorry to hear it, FSA ๐Ÿ™

  • #182557

    This shit just got real!

    @Jackthetiger

    My education is in Geography.

  • #182575

    tmichelle
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I’m sorry. My dh has been laid off for awhile now so I understand your frustrations right now.

  • #182581

    SunshineR
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    FSA: how are you doing today? I’m sorry. I was laid off 4 1/2 years ago. Decided to go back to school with funding from the state where I live. Not sure if that would be at all possible for you in your situation, or if you need to find work immediately. Hoping that you will have good news soon.

  • #182588

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    FSA,
    I am sure that there is so much scope for you to use your geographical knowledge in this era of significant climate change. It is frustrating to see talented young people unable to build a fulfilling career.

    I found this link to different career options and it might give you a few ideas, although I am not suggesting you should become FSAustralian. http://www.iag.org.au/about-geography/careers-through-geography/

    Good luck.

  • #182599

    This shit just got real!

    @Jackthetiger

    I think you are forgetting that I live in the US and that Global Warming is socialist/the devil here.

    I live in the land of Scientific ignorance and hatred. The only science accepted here is the science that makes faster and better ipods. But fuck clean water and fuck medicine, give me pseudo new age crap.
    /rant

  • #182683

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    FSA, I am not sure if your comments reflect the real state of scientific endeavour in the US at the moment, or your (justified) anger in being given the boot from your job. It seems astonishing to me that the country that has achieved so much in various scientific fields now approaches it with ignorance and hatred.

    We too struggle with action on climate change. The average person just wants the government to act, but there are opponents who claim that the impact on the economy will be too great, and that we will suffer if we make changes that disadvantage our competitiveness. This creates a sense of uncertainty when we should be making drastic changes NOW.

    As to the pseudo new age crap, my husband is a nurse and we have no tolerance for costly, improperly researched remedies. He calls it witchcraft, but I think that might be an insult to witches. It is plain dishonest to promote the benefits of unproven products, and charge a fortune for them, to people who may be desperate or gullible. We prefer scientifically proven, efficacious medications which are subsidised by Australia’s pharmaceutical benefits scheme. I imagine some people there might think that is socialism too, but it works for us.

    PS Any news on the job front?

  • #182685

    Claycat
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I certainly wish we had better benefits, Jack! I like the idea of socialized medicine. I have suffered for many years from lack of decent health care. My credit card has been way too high for the last few years, because of a hospital bill we couldn’t afford. ๐Ÿ™

    My husband is covered, but we can’t afford mine.

    As for medication! As long as research on medicine remains in the hands of the pharmaceuticals, we will never have the quality of medicine we could.

  • #182696

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Claycat, We heard that it was difficult for the US government to pass a bill making it possible for people to be covered for health care. It just seemed so bizarre that people would not want to ensure that everyone has access to it. It seems so unfair that people can be crippled financially with health costs just because they have the misfortune to fall ill.

    The health care in Australia is not perfect; many people have to wait for “non essential” surgery such as hip or knee replacements. There is never enough money in the system to treat everyone immediately. However, if you are critically ill, you will be treated straight away. My husband had appendicitis and he was seen in casualty, operated on and stayed in hospital and it did not cost us a cent. We do pay a 1% levy on our income tax to cover this.

    I wish you a full recovery.

  • #182704

    Claycat
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Thanks, Jackthetiger! The funny thing is, that trip to the hospital was because one of my medications was bad for me, and I passed out on the airplane. However, the hospital stacked up all these tests instead of checking the simplest things first. Later that medication came out once with a dizziness warning and then never again. I stopped taking the medication myself. So, I’m fine from that visit. Thank you for your kind words. The main problem now is pain from surgery I had in 2001. I believe it’s probably adhesions. So, I just live with it.

  • #182709

    Rosa
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Jack, in the US the rate of acceptance of global warming as scientific fact is about half what it is in other countries – last stat I heard was 30% here, 80% in Canada/UK/Australia (the rest of the English-speaking developed world.)

    So FSA is pretty on-fact about public opinion here. We do have a lot of science research and funding going on but the public is a different story.

  • #182722

    pkilmain
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    This shit just got real!

    Hmmm, those of us living in the far north will testify to the very real fact of global warming.

  • #182726

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Pkilmain, The Arctic appears to be one of the “canaries in the mine”. I saw some scientific modeling about the collapse of the sea ice there and it will have a huge impact on the planet.

    We in the south have our warnings too. In my state of Victoria, we have had twelve years of drought, catastrophic bush fires and Summer temperatures reaching the high 40sC. This Summer, we had unseasonably cooler weather with fewer days over 40, record rain and flooding. In Queensland, the flooding has caused damage that will take years to repair. At the same time, Western Australia is still in dire drought. Tropical cyclones across the north appear to be more frequent and more powerful. There can be no doubt that we have entered a new era of climate instability.

    Rosa, Why do you think there has been so little success in getting the message across to the public in the US?

    Sorry FSA, We have got off the track of your original post!

  • #182727

    This shit just got real!

    @Jackthetiger

    Ignorance, and selfishness. Some people are just stupid, other refuse to give up any of or modern comforts. Before graduating college I volunteered for a local organization to spread scientific understanding. I quit after 3 months, I would have conversations with people that made me want to literally kill myself. All the pseudo-science out there, general ignorance and out right denial-ism is frightening.

    On the Job front, a few jobs I applied for, feels like I am just tossing dice.

  • #182729

    Amy
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I don’t believe in Global Warming, I don’t think the earth is flat, and I know the sun does not revolve around the earth.
    It has been revealed that the scientists who were supposedly proving global warming doctored their numbers. I guess they were addicted to all that grant money.
    As far aa Obamacare goes, the sooner it is repealed, the better…http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/bitter_irony_of_socialized_med.html
    Now, that’s some real shit!

  • #182749

    Claycat
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    FSA, I hope you have good luck with your job hunting.

    Amy, I don’t like Obamacare either. I want universal single payer health care, the sooner the better! I’m tired of having no health care.

    I guess we will know about global warming sooner or later. I just know that the summer heat is far more unbearable now than in the late fifties when I was just a child.

    It doesn’t matter. With nuclear meltdowns, depleted uranium weapons, Monsanto GM food, chemtrails, etc., life on planet Earth is doomed anyway.

  • #182753

    This shit just got real!

    *facepalm*

  • #182754

    Claycat
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I’m sorry, FSA! I guess you can tell I’m depressed.

  • #182775

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Wow Amy, I have never met anybody who does not believe in climate change (in person or online). I don’t know what to say. I am glad that I do not have children who will need to deal with the consequences when I am dust. I worry for my nieces and nephews and fear that they will not be able to live the life I have had.

    I don’t know what Obamacare is, but it seems like there is a lot of luck in your system. If you have the luck to have a good job and health care you are set. If you have the misfortune to lose your job or become ill without cover, you are screwed. I prefer to pay a levy and provide health care for the community as a whole. I don’t mean to offend anyone, just an observation.

    Claycat, there is too much happening sometimes and it feels that we can do nothing to stop the juggernaut. You can only deal with working in your own way to make a difference in your community. Grow those heritage vegetables and fruits, continue to question the compulsion to acquire more, live simply and try to leave your tiny corner of the planet in better shape than you found it.

    FSA, I’m glad you have a few applications in as it is hard to pick yourself up. Good luck.

  • #182804

    Rosa
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Jack, there are a lot of reasons but I think #1 is that for some reason religious conservatives allied themselves with anti-environmentalism in the ongoing culture war that started out being about civil rights issues (racial integration, women’s rights).

    It’s startling, though, because it’s a stark difference even over small areas – where I live isn’t very culturally different than central Canada except on those culture-war issues (abortion, public health care, and global warming.)

  • #182805

    Sky
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Jackthetiger….there are plenty of supposedly intelligent people (that I know) that think global warming is a hoax or maybe they don’t want to believe it.

    Either way, we should all tread lightly on our earth and be responsible. I agree with you that we can all make improvements in our own lives and where we live. Grow a garden, use less energy, stop the excess consumerism. Decrease our footprint!

  • #182811

    BevAnn
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I am very “new” to the whole footprint thing. But I have started taking baby-steps to work on decreasing mine. I have not bought any paper plates or cups since January 1. We use actual plates and cups – my boys were very distressed at first, as this meant WAY more dishes for them to do each night!

    FSA, I understand your pain, anger and hostility more than you know. I am so sorry for anyone that has to go through this. I had been at my job as a Controller for 10 years. And loved my job and the people I worked for, until they stabbed me in the back. I believed in company loyalty…not anymore. :/

  • #182904

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    It is the pits when you give your all to a workplace, then they don’t give their loyalty in return.

    How’s it going FSA and BevAnn? I know it is early days but I hope you have some luck with the applications.

  • #182907

    Parsifal
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Good for you, BevAnn! Isn’t it amazing how much throwaway stuff we can do without when properly motivated?

    As for me, I’m a software sub contractor and it really irks me when the FTEs call us greedy mercenaries. Am I going to get pension? Nope. Social security? Not in the sense we mean it today. Good return on 401(k)? Doubtful. If we know we’re not going to get a payout on the back end, is it any wonder we demand proper compensation up front.

  • #182927

    BevAnn
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Thanks Jack nd Parsifal. It is finally starting to look up in the employment area. At least I’m getting call backs and interviews. FSA how is looking for you?? Any leads? I literally did not get one phone call the whole month of Nov, Dec and Jan. At the end of Feb things FINALLY starting picking up.

    Someone told me companies were waiting until the end of the first quarter to see how their 2011 figures were measuring up, before they would start hiring and I’ll be damned if that isn’t exactly what seems to be happening.

    So FSA hopefully you’ll start having good news too!!!

  • #183007

    This shit just got real!

    Last day at work.

  • #183008

    tmichelle
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    How did the last day go?

  • #183016

    lgmost
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I’m sorry to hear that. I am also finding job. Since I don’t have much working experience, it is very hard to get a job. I am very depressed and have no confidence, I have sent out resume but no reply. Really want to cry….so sad~ I don’t want to add the financial burden to my parents. I feel guilty about that.

  • #183039

    djk
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    I am so sorry to hear you are feeling depressed, lgmost. I wish you the best in finding work. Just take the next step, whatever that is for you. One resume sent, one box emptied, a free local event attended to get out and about?

    Do you have support around you?

  • #183067

    bandicoot
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    lgmost, i am sorry to hear that you are feeling depressed.
    i do not know what your field is, but is it possible for you to gain some work experience in a volunteer capacity?
    you help them and they help you….everyone wins!

  • #183081

    lgmost
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    Thanks for your support djk, bandicoot. In fact, I’m confused about my career goal. My past working experiences were not totally related to my target job but I can learn a lot of practical skills. I think it is a challenging job, I was under great pressure. Therefore, if I change the field, I have no related working experiences and this makes me difficult to get into the new field. I wonder if I am doing the right thing or I should continue to learn the practical skills. I didn’t mention the details with my parents, I just don’t want them to worry.

  • #183083

    Rosa
    Member

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    Lgmost, I’ve had that problem – last time I was jobhunting, all of my current software experience was in a program only used in the newspaper publishing industry, and I had to learn the newest Word & Excel even to test for temp jobs. Also my resume was very strange (same company for 6 years but many different jobs within the company) and had large gaps (travel, fulltime childcare).

    Eventually I found a job that valued flexibility and quick learning, at a company that was in the middle of rolling over to new software and wanted people who weren’t wedded to one specific way of doing things. They were actually excited about all of the things on my resume other companies saw as flaws.

    ALL your experience will count when you find the right position. Just keep looking and eventually something will pan out.

  • #183089

    lgmost
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    @Rosa, thanks for sharing your experience, it is very encouraging and I am taking that to support my current thought of changing field. That is exactly why I am nervous. I deeply appreciate all of you giving me ideas and support.

  • #183141

    Jackthetiger
    Member

    This shit just got real!

    How’s it going FSA? Are you able to take a few days off to relax after your last day of work? I hope something comes up soon for you, Igmost and Bevann.

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