Archives for A Year Ago
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Money for nothing
MSN Money discusses the high price of clutter. - Unitasker Wednesday: GoateeSaver
I know plenty of people that have successfully groomed their goatee without the aid of the GoateeSaver, but is the upkeep of those goatees that big of a pain? - 10 tips to beat clutter in less than five minutes
Gretchen Rubin of the Happiness Project provides great ideas for quick clutter-busting activities. - Workspace of the Week: Unconventional solutions
This week’s entry uses flower pots, baskets, boxes, and all sorts of unconventional items to store objects in her scrapbooker office. - Yard Sales: An unclutterer’s ultimate, how-to guide
Professional organizer Geralin Thomas provides the ultimate guide for throwing the perfect yard sale. - Auto detailing: The extreme clean
I thought I knew what extreme car cleaning was. I was wrong.
2007
- Downsizing our home
The size and upkeep of our 2800 square foot Victorian home is just too much for us. - Extreme minimalism Monday: Shoes are clutter
I’m still keeping my kicks, no matter what the extreme minimalist says. - Reader pics: Charles Smith’s uncluttered nursery
Having a baby can really test your ability to keep a tidy and uncluttered home. - Streamline your security check point routine
Some tips to make your security check easier. - Birthday cards and reminder systems
Organization systems to prevent you from having to run to the store at the last minute, and you won’t have to worry about forgetting anyone’s special day. - Unitasker Wednesday: Monogrammed steak brand
I know I enjoy monogrammed food much more than non-monogrammed food. - Detach yourself from stuff
One of the major reasons people hold on to stuff is the emotional attachment they assign to an object. - Keep on posting!
The Unclutterer Flickr workspace group is full of inspiring photographs from our readers offices.
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Know Your Stuff home inventory software
Know Your Stuff helps you create a room-by-room inventory of your personal possessions. - All-in-one washer/dryer
LG may have created the ultimate space saving laundry solution in the All-In-One Washer and Dryer. - Streaming Netflix
While I’m waiting for the perfect Netflix player to come along Engadget is reporting that LG has a Blu-Ray player that will stream Netflix content. - Table in a box
Do you have limited space? This new two-person table from Japan might be for you.
2007
- Reader question: Fireproof storage, part two
The second installment in this series discusses features of home fireproof boxes and off-site digital storage devices. Both storage methods are essential if you’re looking to be organized in times of emergency. - Lay it all out
Laying items out may enlighten you to the fact that you have much more junk than you first thought. - An alternative to a bulky double boiler
If you are looking for a double boiler, you may want to check out this silicone collapsible alternative.
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Say goodbye to perfume clutter
Buy only sample sizes of perfume to keep large glass bottles from piling up on your shelves. - Unitasker Wednesday: Kool dogz ice treat maker
With the Kool Dogz Ice Treat Maker a dog owner can now make a huge ice block for their pooch with this six piece ice making set up. - Avoid baby gates that require screws
When my wife and I were looking for a baby gate we were set on finding a gate that did not require installation of any kind. - The phone book problem
Does anyone know how to get publishing companies to stop delivering phone books? - Workspace of the Week: A back-to-school space
This week’s Workspace of the Week is extremely practical for a student in a small space. - Mail Pixily your monthly papers to scan
Using a pre-paid envelope, send documents once a month to Pixily to be scanned. - Turn your old CDs into a workout
Pile all of your old CDs onto a pipe and create your own dumbells.
2007
- The clutter-free DJ set up
- Reader question: Should I hire a professional organizer?
Advice for things to do and consider when hiring a professional organizer. - The multifunctional Trey chair
The Trey is first and foremost an office chair, but it “also transforms into a rocker with and extra seat for a friend, foot stool, laptop desk, or side table.” - Your organized workspace
We’ve created a flickr group to which readers can add their pics and everyone can comment on them. Every week or so we’ll pick a workspace to feature on the Unclutterer site. - Popout maps
The Popout map is about the size of a postcard. It folds out and as the name suggests it pops out with two separate maps. - Grandparents, consider the fold away crib
Both of our parents have a crib in their home and they take up a ton of space that neither of their homes have to spare. - Unitasker Wednesday: Warm whiskers neck warmer
Did you have a tough day at work? Your Warm Whiskers stuffed cat will make it all better. - Reader question: What should I store in a fireproof box?
These items will be beneficial to have immediately following a home fire or in an emergency.
Popularity: 8% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Make your kitchen magnetic
The managing editor of cookthink.com shares with us ideas for saving space with magnets in your kitchen. - Unclutterer on Carrie and Danielle’s Style Statement website
Danielle LaPorte interviews Erin on the Style Statement website. - The 20th annual Great American Yard Sale
- Have someone else digitize your old photos
ScanMyPhotos.com promises to professionally scan 1,000 photos for you, the same day it receives them, and put them on a DVD for $50. - College Life: Invest in a laptop
Intern Julia’s third installment in her back-to-school series explaining why to purchase a laptop before heading off to college.
2007
- Resource list for inherited clutter
Provided is a resource list of books and an organization that may be of benefit when handling inherited clutter. - Are floor mats added as we age?
My late grandmother was notorious for carpeting her floor with mats. There were mats in front of her couch, at the kitchen sink, in the bathroom, at the foot of each bed, and underneath her rocking chair. - Baby toy alternatives
Obviously, these aren’t going to replace every toy, but they can offset the accumulation of more toys.
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Ikea’s new Laptop Workstation: A highlight of 2009 catalog
Ikea’s PS collection expands with a wonderful addition of the wall-mounted Laptop Workstation. - Unitasker Wednesday: UroClub
I’m not sure if the UroClub is a joke, but is definitely a ridiculous alternative to using the woods. - Hangers, hangers, hangers!
I’m sure our readers have many differing opinions on what the best hanger is, but I’ll highlight a few options. - Clearing mind chatter
When mind clutter takes over your thoughts, what can you do to gain control and refocus? - Workspace of the Week: Perfect spaces
The cabinetry carved out around the window, the pegs for headphones, and the black wall under the desk make this an incredible workspace. - Uncluttering and weight loss: Is there a connection?
Is weight loss a side effect of uncluttering, or is it just a correlation? - Say you’re sorry
Let us take a few minutes and write (humorous) letters of apology to those whom we impacted with our clutter!
2007
- Hide your ironing board
Four options for storing your ironing board when it’s not in use. - Board game clutter
The board game itself isn’t really the space hog. The box the game comes in is the culprit. - After the yard sale
The most important thing we succeeded in doing was getting rid of a ton of stuff we don’t use anymore. - Peter Walsh was in a barbershop Quartet in Skokie, Illinois
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Interview with organizing legend Julie Morgenstern
Unclutterer interviews Julie Morgenstern about her latest book. - Brando 4-in-1 desk lamp
When I first read about the multifunctional Brando 4-in-1 desk lamp I was a bit intrigued, but then I looked at the thing and its functions, and I was underwhelmed. - Keep the stroller at home
Having to lug a car seat and stroller through the airport isn’t a very fun experience. - O’Reilly embraces ebook technology and releases 30 digital titles
Technology publishing giant O’Reilly recently announced that many of its popular titles will be released in ebook format. - Answering unique reader mail
We get some strange e-mail, so I decided to answer some of the special pieces.
2007
- Be organized after an auto accident
After a car accident a person can be disoriented and anxious so it is best to have a plan of action in place to keep organized. - Porch and patio storage
If you have an outdoor area where you spend a fair amount of time, there are sure to be items that permanently reside outside. - Helping parents downsize their home
The article Conquering Clutter from the January/February 2007 issue of AARP Magazine offers many suggestions and insight on this emotional topic. - Redefining the sofabed
Sofabeds are wonderful space-savers, but this is ridiculous. - Megapixel arms race
Does the high number of megapixels give one the bragging rights to win the race?
Popularity: 5% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Reader question: Move or store furniture?
Reader Lisa wonders if she should store furniture she doesn’t want to move into her new home. - What would you choose for Seth Brundle?
If you could only wear one outfit for the rest of your life, what would it be? - Plan out the week’s clothing on Sunday
Back to school time is almost here. Soon parents and children will be fighting each morning on what to wear. - The Garage zone: Tips to organize your garage
As we head into the dog days of summer, it’s a great time to organize the garage. - Workspace of the Week: A clean desk
Nick cleans his desk and makes great use of his space with four monitors. - College Life: Making your dorm room livable
Intern Julia gives advice for sprucing up your dorm room
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Take a load off your summertime travel plans
Now that some airlines are charging for checked baggage, look to these tips to reduce your summer travel load. - Clearing out attic clutter
No one ever said getting rid of clutter is easy. It takes time, effort, and sometimes an emotional toll. - I don’t know about you, but I’m going to the spa
Erin takes the day off to celebrate her birthday. - Uncluttered cooking magazine
Cuisine at Home is a very straight-to-the-point magazine that has zero ads and tons of tips and recipes.
2007
- Unclutterer in latest issue of Ready Made magazine
Unclutterer can be found on page 64 of the August/September 2007 issue of Ready Made magazine. - Ideas for managing your child’s toys
Suggestions for what to do to stop the accumulation of more children’s toys. - Make your yard easier to maintain
If you have a larger yard with more landscaping and plants to tend to, you may want to try some of these tips to cut your maintenance down as much as possible. - Collapsible measuring cups
I don’t know how many times I’ve tried to close the utensil drawer in our kitchen when a measuring cup gets caught up in the drawer.
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Filing systems that failed
The 19th century gave birth to many filing systems that turned out to be complete failures before the vertical filing systems became popular. - Unclutterer editor appears in Ready Made magazine
Erin writes a closet organizing article for the Aug/Sep issue of Ready Made magazine. - Unitasker Wednesday: The watch winder
Now you can skip the winding of your watch with this amazing product that doubles as a display case. - Use water bottles to store paint
Paint cans always seem to be left behind by previous owners and they tend to sit in a garage or basement for eternity. - No more need for a big salad spinner
Salad spinner bags replace a need for a cumbersome, large, hard plastic, salad spinner. - Workspace of the Week: An Ikea dreamsicle
Basic Ikea pieces can be set against a brightly painted wall to create a fun, unique space. - Recycling bins don’t have to be messy
A June 2008 Popular Mechanics article examines ways to get rid of recycling clutter. - July 2008 wrap up
These are the things that made July 2008 a great month at Unclutterer.com.
2007
- Yard sale preparation
To get our home into order we have decided to have a yard sale. - Unclutterer joins the LifeRemix network
Unclutterer is pleased to announce that it has joined LifeRemix, a network of personal enrichment blogs. LifeRemix blogs explore the topics of productivity, happiness, work and family balance, personal development, and, of course, home and office organization. - Bike storage solutions
There are many storage solutions available that will keep your bike out of the way when it isn’t in use.
Popularity: 6% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Unclutterer’s comment policy
Nasty grams are pure clutter, so we clean them off the server the same way we throw away junk mail in our homes. - 25 tips to prepare your home for sale
With the real estate market in decline it is more important than ever to prepare your home before you put it on the market. - In search of a nail care storage solution
My wife’s manicure bag is in complete disarray, but we are at a loss for a suitable storage solution. - Shiny Object Syndrome: Is your business at risk?
Do you let your decisions at work be guided by the latest new item?
2007
- More than 15 ways to handle recurrent clutter
There are three areas in my home that are on a recurring cycle of being cluttered and cause me stress: the kitchen, the family room, and the dirty clothes hamper in the bedroom. Provided in the post are more than 10 helpful hints for dealing with this clutter. - Reader question: How to dispose of unused medications
Medicines are hazardous waste and should be disposed of properly. - A travel friendly solution for your baby’s dining needs
So you have an infant or toddler and your traveling to a destination that isn’t equipped with a high chair? - Coleman multi-tasking blanket
Here at Unclutterer we love multi-taskers. Especially, multi-taskers that can be stored away in a neat little bag.
Popularity: 6% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Cleaning out your cluttered car
Envision a clutter-free car, and take these steps to whip your automobile into shape. - Unitasker Wednesday: The strawberry huller
Apparently, the strawberry needs to be hulled before one can really enjoy the juicy red fruit. - Get more use out of a convertible crib
Convertible cribs, for those who don’t know, are cribs that convert into smaller beds. - College Life: Back-to-school basics
The first installment of Intern Julia’s series on college dorm living. - Workspace of the Week: Pie in the sky
With a view this wonderful, Rephlektiv’s office was a shoe-in for our weekly feature. - How a home office should function
The three qualities everyone should strive to achieve in her home office. - Relax your game with an uncluttered golf bag
Get rid of your low-use golf clubs and start enjoying the game again.
2007
- Unclutter worries from your mind
When I find my thoughts are a mess, I answer the following five questions to unclutter my mind. - Extreme minimalism Monday: Bucket o’ food
The extreme minimalist outdoes Rachael Ray by eating for $40 a Month. - Of uncluttering buddies and shoes
- Child’s beach bag can help contain beach toy clutter
Children’s beach toys can quickly grow out of control, and a beach tote of his or her own can help solve the problem. - Craftsman tool chest becomes non-traditional jewelry box
All of your jewelry, regardless of size or shape, can fit comfortably inside a Craftsman Six Drawer Tool Chest. - Website helps identify walker-friendly neighborhoods
Walk Score ranks the walkability of a neighborhood for people interested in a car-free lifestyle. - Unitasker Wednesday: Apple peeler-corer
My love affair with Williams-Sonoma’s endless supply of unitaskers continues with this contraption to help you peel and core your apples. - Attack your junk drawer
We all have at least one drawer in our house that has turned into what can be called a junk drawer. - Organizing your dorm room
So is it possible for college aged co-eds to keep their dorms in an organized and uncluttered state? Here are some tips and products to help achieve the nearly impossible task.
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- iPhone 3G reduces pocket clutter
Erin jumped on the iPhone 3G bandwagon and found that the phone actually reduces pocket clutter. - Inbox zero
The inbox is now an extension of your attic clutter. - Tiny landing strip for tiny spaces
It may be a little difficult in some smaller spaces to dedicate an area for the typical landing strip. - iPhone apps help reduce clutter and improve productivity
iPhone applications that work to improve organization and time management.
2007
- Free-up space in your bathroom by getting rid of nail polish
If you’re looking to free up some space in your bathroom cabinets, you might think about getting rid of your finger nail polish supply. - Living small
Lowe’s now sells floor plans and kits for their Katrina Cottages, which have footprints starting at 544 square feet. - Uncluttered mosquito solution
Gomestic article names five plants that help repel mosquitoes during summer months.
Popularity: 6% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- It’s new and improved!
Over at Neuromarketing, studies suggest that we may be hardwired to find “new products (and even repackaged old products) attractive.” - Work life creeping into personal life? Try a battery-only weekend
If you’re having difficulty drawing the line between work life and your personal life, try living off of your laptop’s battery power for a weekend. - The endowment effect
A recent Economist article discusses the physiological, psychological, and economically irrational attachments people have with objects they own. And, to take it one step further, why it’s difficult to part with our possessions.
2007
- Handling inherited clutter, part 1
The first post in the series on what to do with clutter that comes with the loss of a loved one or when someone is moved into a smaller living space, such as a nursing home. - Gamer clutter
If you are a gamer, try and keep your entertainment system under control and the gaming clutter to a minimum. - Corrective lenses are clutter
The ability to see when I wake up is definitely the highest priority, but also I’m tired of keeping my drawer stocked with lenses and solutions.
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- How to be prepared in case of fire
What should you do now to make life easier if your home burns in a fire. - Unitasker Wednesday: Microwavable S’Mores Maker
S’mores on demand is an incredible luxury that you can enjoy whenever the mood strikes you. - Futon with storage
When you hear the word “futon,” your back probably starts to ache a bit. - Essential tools for the household handyman
Eleven essential tools for your home tool box. - Workspace of the Week: Pretty in pink
Kelly Sue’s office takes the color pink and runs with it to create an organized office. - Curbing cables on a media center
How to use kwik klips, plastic cable ties, and velcro fasteners to get rid of cable clutter on a media center. - Wall-E: A fun film with an uncluttered message
Latest Pixar animated film carries a message about the ills of over consumption.
2007
- Extreme minimalism Monday: sounds of silence
What’s the extreme minimalist listening to on his new iPod? - Living in small spaces
Tips for living like you would in a 360-square-foot cabin. - My umbrella has wifi!
Temptations to buy clutter are everywhere — even in cool gadgets. - Reader question: Dealing with a cluttery significant other
“I wonder if you can address what to do when one person in a relationship is content to be a clutterer, and the other person desires to be clutter-free.” - Unitasker Wednesday: The Towel-matic paper towel dispenser
Now you can live a stress free life without having to worry about the dangers of getting crushed by a paper towel avalanche. - Everyday things: Are you buying quality or quantity?
Knowing about the potential of what you already own can keep you from having to acquire even more things. - The tried and true Swiss Army Knife
The Victorinox Swiss Army Ranger Pocket Knife measures in at 3.5 inches and weighs a miniscule 4.8 ounces as it packs a whopping twenty different tools.
Popularity: 8% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- What happens when Unclutterer is invited to tour Consumer Reports
Erin tours Consumer Reports’ testing facilities and learns a great deal about informed consumerism. - Collections of Nothing
This book looks quite interesting and will probably be of interest to readers of this blog. - Wedding clutter
For some reason we kept napkins, cookie bags, candles, champagne glasses, greeting cards, wedding programs, cake knife, guestbook pen, a wedding favor, a personal wedding planner, random photos from disposable cameras, and a cake topper. - Notebook portable grill
This little grill folds up to be only 1.25″ thick.
2007
- Transforming inherited jewelry
Artist Sara Bradstreet discusses how she reinvents old jewelry to get it out of your jewelry box and into the daylight. - The space saving bicycle
So you want a bicycle, but you just don’t have the room to store it? Well, why not check out the A-bike? - Organization facts from Mother Jones
Mother Jones provides an interesting list of facts on organization in America.
Popularity: 7% [?]
Peter Walsh provides organizing tips for Microsoft Office users
Last month, reader Bev wrote in to our Ask Unclutterer column looking for tips on how to use Entourage on a Mac to organize e-mail and create tasks. A few days before I received her question, I had spoken to super organizer Peter Walsh about the program and was able to pass along a few of his tips.
Peter has gone on to create a 15-minute video for Microsoft talking about how he recommends using Microsoft Office to organize three specific areas of one’s life (family, finance, and health). It’s on the Microsoft for Mac section of the website, but I’ve watched most of the video and can’t really see that any of his tips are necessarily Mac-specific. If you’re a Microsoft Office PC user, you can benefit from the video just the same.
A few words about the video:
- If you don’t have Microsoft’s Silverlight browser plugin on your computer, you’ll be prompted to download it. It’s free and you don’t have to reboot your computer after installing it.
- The video includes helpful advice, but in this specific situation Peter talks much slower than he usually does. His slow speech is obviously so that people can open up programs and move things around while following along with the video. However, if you’re not opening programs and following his advice while watching the video, you’ll probably miss his typical fast-paced, cheerful style.
- He recommends backing up your data to CDs or DVDs. I disagree with this since a disaster that could destroy your computer very likely would destroy this disc-saved data. It’s better to back up your data online (gmail, Mozy.com, a Flickr Pro account for your pictures, etc.) at an off-site location than having your backup and the original in the same house.
I was particularly interested in seeing how he recommended using Office to help track health-related matters. If you’re a Microsoft Office user, you might be interested in checking out Peter Walsh’s video.
Popularity: 16% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Pitfalls of creativity clutter
LifeDev blogger Glen Stansberry addresses how to be creative and organized. - Unitasker Wednesday: Peanut butter and jelly spreader
This breakthrough in spreading technology can not be overlooked. - Make those giant speakers into storage
If you have a couple of old school floor standing speakers taking up space in your basement or attic, you may want to consider retrofitting them into media storage cabinets. - Plastic card cable organizer
Reader Creatrope provides directions for how to turn an old membership card into a cable organizer. - In defense of a messy desk
In a Financial Times Deutschland article the following question is asked, “If a cluttered desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what does an empty desk say about the quality of your ideas?”
2007
- Family heirlooms: Give them away at milestone celebrations
Don’t hoard your treasured heirlooms, instead give them away at appropriate times with heart-felt explanations of why they are valued. - Extreme Minimalism Monday: look ma! no hands!
Finding balance in your morning commute. - Is collecting a form of creative hoarding?
People often choose hobbies in which they don’t really do much of anything other than accumulate items. - Prototyping your space
Using cardboard cut-outs to test out changes to your environment. - Merlin’s war on clutter
Over on the web’s ‘canonical’ productivity blog, 43 Folders, Merlin Mann has gone decluttering crazy. Inspired by Peter Walsh’s book How to Organize Just About Everything, which he found out about from this humble site, he went into purge mode and nicely cataloged his experience in a a great series of uncluttering posts. - Corn on the cob clutter
Summertime ushers in all sorts of food choices, but over at the Amazon al Dente blog it can bring clutter in the form of the Five Essential Corn Tools post. - Unitasker Wednesday: The Hollywood Purse Hook
The Hollywood Purse Hook is a very specific item that saves you from having to use the floor or an open seat to store your purse. - Why are you here?
What drives you to pursue an uncluttered life?
Popularity: 7% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Time-saving tips
Tips to help you save time doing chores. - The transforming diaper bag
The Hoppop is a diaper bag that transforms into a baby seat. - Folding efficiently can save space
Real Simple has a how to guide on the correct way to fold just about anything. - June 2008 wrap up
These are the things that made June 2008 memorable at Unclutterer.
2007
- A man in uniform
Steve Jobs is a man who knows what he wants to wear.
Popularity: 6% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- Streamlining your morning routine
Track your morning routine to find out what is keeping you from getting to work on time. - Unitasker Wednesday: The Hot Dog Roller
With a simple move of the handle you can move up to five hot dogs at once! - Workspace of the Week: Small-living desk
Skorpion24 finds a way to store more computers and peripherals a person could imagine in less than 20 sq. feet. - The pumpkin rule
Megan Drayton, founder and CEO of eChef Software, discusses the necessity that led her to create an organization product for all of her recipes.
2007
- Baby room clutter: The changing table
When my wife and I were planning the nursery we were inundated by so many items that we must have. - Read a book and pass it on
You can prevent book clutter by asking yourself a few questions when you finish reading. - Extreme minimalism Monday: hair is clutter
Britney was on to something. - Reader question: Which linens stay and which ones go?
Tips to help you know which linens are good and which linens are clutter in your home. - Unitasker Wednesday: Mango splitter
I’m sure I’ll get a bunch of comments from mango lovers telling me that they can’t live without their mango splitter, but I just can’t justify purchasing a tool to split a specific fruit. - Trash the dress!
Clear clutter from your closet by participating in the Trash the Dress project. - Weekend project idea: Clear clutter from your medicine chest
Clear the clutter from your medicine chest as a simple, weekend project! - Improve performance by getting files off your OS X desktop
Keeping things clean can make your computer faster. Who knew? - Brilliant: The foot dustpan
Reader Scott sent in this awesome foot-handled dustpan.
Popularity: 8% [?]
A year ago on Unclutterer
2008
- No more Organize subscriptions
Organize magazine is no longer taking subscriptions. - Depression-era mindset and clutter
My grandmother was old enough to remember being a child in Pittsburgh during the Great Depression. - Remembering George Carlin
Here at Unclutterer we highlighted his bit on “Stuff” from his 1986 Comic Relief performance. - Fusion Table lets you have your pool table too
So you’ve wanted a pool table ever since your parents said you don’t have room for one. - What to do if you are organized and your partner isn’t
If you’re a part of a mismatched couple, how can you find a way to more easily live with your messy partner?
2007
- Peter Walsh answers questions for Unclutterer.com
Peter Walsh took time out of his busy schedule to participate in an interview with Unclutterer.com. - Switch purses often? Don’t miss a thing
Switch purses often? Then you have no doubt been faced with the problem of missing items that results from switching the contents of your handbag in a hurry. Well, here’s the solution.
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