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		<title>By: staci</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2011/02/04/ask-unclutterer-organizing-photographs/comment-page-2/#comment-68479</link>
		<dc:creator>staci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 00:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ended up with a ton of duplicates and others to ditch.....now what????  Shred them, burn them????  I&#039;m not putting them into the trash for strangers to find.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ended up with a ton of duplicates and others to ditch&#8230;..now what????  Shred them, burn them????  I&#8217;m not putting them into the trash for strangers to find.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin,

I have 3x5 (and smaller) pictures that my grandfather took in WWII - the negatives either having been lost or thrown away before they came into my possession.   He died when I was 5 years old and the pictures of him during this set of pictures are some of the only ones that I have.  However, not having the negatives means I will never be able to duplicate at the same quality or print these rather small pictures at a larger size to have framed.  

&quot;If not having negatives is good enough for a professional photographer AND National Geographic, it’s good enough for me and 99% of the population.&quot;
-- So only 1% of the population has had a loved one pass away and wish for a negative for a larger reprint?
Pictures ORIGINATING in digital are good enough for NatGeo - I am fairly certain they haven&#039;t thrown away decades of slides and negatives.

The aggressive manner in which you have been responding to comments that are simply addressing concerns has just lost you a reader.  Congrats on that.  There are always two sides to everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin,</p>
<p>I have 3&#215;5 (and smaller) pictures that my grandfather took in WWII &#8211; the negatives either having been lost or thrown away before they came into my possession.   He died when I was 5 years old and the pictures of him during this set of pictures are some of the only ones that I have.  However, not having the negatives means I will never be able to duplicate at the same quality or print these rather small pictures at a larger size to have framed.  </p>
<p>&#8220;If not having negatives is good enough for a professional photographer AND National Geographic, it’s good enough for me and 99% of the population.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; So only 1% of the population has had a loved one pass away and wish for a negative for a larger reprint?<br />
Pictures ORIGINATING in digital are good enough for NatGeo &#8211; I am fairly certain they haven&#8217;t thrown away decades of slides and negatives.</p>
<p>The aggressive manner in which you have been responding to comments that are simply addressing concerns has just lost you a reader.  Congrats on that.  There are always two sides to everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2011/02/04/ask-unclutterer-organizing-photographs/comment-page-2/#comment-67925</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin,

I have to correct a major error in your statement.  Film made from 1950 onwards is composed of cellulose triacetate which is NOT flammable.  Kodak specifically moved to this technology in response to problems with earlier negatives, which were nitrate based and which indeed are flammable.  You will see the words &quot;SAFETY FILM&quot; on the edge of 35mm negatives from the last 60 years expressly for this reason.

The negatives will melt but they will not add anything to a fire.  The Materials Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for cellulose triacetate in fact rates the material at 0 for flammability.

Finally, I don&#039;t understand the argument you make about digital being good enough for National Geographic now, so it must be good enough for everything.  This may be true for images which originate in modern digital camera sensors, but has nothing to do with the low quality scans typical of most run of the mill drugstore labs.  There was a reason that NatGeo relied on Kodachrome/Ektachrome slide originals for their publications for so many years, and it wasn&#039;t really that long ago that they moved to digital input.

Mr. Coes is exactly right in that a lot of information is left on the table if you rely on a scan of a typical consumer photo print.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin,</p>
<p>I have to correct a major error in your statement.  Film made from 1950 onwards is composed of cellulose triacetate which is NOT flammable.  Kodak specifically moved to this technology in response to problems with earlier negatives, which were nitrate based and which indeed are flammable.  You will see the words &#8220;SAFETY FILM&#8221; on the edge of 35mm negatives from the last 60 years expressly for this reason.</p>
<p>The negatives will melt but they will not add anything to a fire.  The Materials Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for cellulose triacetate in fact rates the material at 0 for flammability.</p>
<p>Finally, I don&#8217;t understand the argument you make about digital being good enough for National Geographic now, so it must be good enough for everything.  This may be true for images which originate in modern digital camera sensors, but has nothing to do with the low quality scans typical of most run of the mill drugstore labs.  There was a reason that NatGeo relied on Kodachrome/Ektachrome slide originals for their publications for so many years, and it wasn&#8217;t really that long ago that they moved to digital input.</p>
<p>Mr. Coes is exactly right in that a lot of information is left on the table if you rely on a scan of a typical consumer photo print.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Doland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mat coes -- My father is a professional photographer who only shoots digital. His photographs have hung in Explorers Hall at National Geographic and graced the pages of many wildlife publications. If not having negatives is good enough for a professional photographer AND National Geographic, it&#039;s good enough for me and 99% of the population.

But, if you want to store them in your home, by all means store them in your home. Just remember that they are highly flammable. If your home goes up in flames, they will instantly be destroyed and will fuel the fire. A digital copy backed up online won&#039;t make your home burn faster, and you&#039;ll be able to see your pictures again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mat coes &#8212; My father is a professional photographer who only shoots digital. His photographs have hung in Explorers Hall at National Geographic and graced the pages of many wildlife publications. If not having negatives is good enough for a professional photographer AND National Geographic, it&#8217;s good enough for me and 99% of the population.</p>
<p>But, if you want to store them in your home, by all means store them in your home. Just remember that they are highly flammable. If your home goes up in flames, they will instantly be destroyed and will fuel the fire. A digital copy backed up online won&#8217;t make your home burn faster, and you&#8217;ll be able to see your pictures again.</p>
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		<title>By: mat coes</title>
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		<dc:creator>mat coes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin, many people trust the words here. I implore you to update your post to summarize the pro-negative opinions buried in these (many) comments.
One&#039;s feelings about photos change as we go through life, and negatives are not clutter. 

Also
Since the 90&#039;s, all of the prints from quick labs, Target, CVS are inkjet prints from 300dpi scans, so you&#039;d be scanning a cruddy print of a lo-res scan with no negative to go back to.

Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, many people trust the words here. I implore you to update your post to summarize the pro-negative opinions buried in these (many) comments.<br />
One&#8217;s feelings about photos change as we go through life, and negatives are not clutter. </p>
<p>Also<br />
Since the 90&#8242;s, all of the prints from quick labs, Target, CVS are inkjet prints from 300dpi scans, so you&#8217;d be scanning a cruddy print of a lo-res scan with no negative to go back to.</p>
<p>Please.</p>
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		<title>By: sofy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sofy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am actually just &quot;refashioning&quot; my photo albums.
I call it refashioning because I have used a long time cutting in the photos, colouring and using old drawing to sorta make it special. (I guess one could call it scrapbooking)
 
Fighting with depression and anxiety, it has been a really good thing to be able to look back at my life and realise that not everything has been pain and suffering.(to put it bluntly)

For me it is very important to have these tangible photo albums. Yes I know they might just last longer and all that if I had them scanned.
But for me, that was not the goal.
The goal was to minimize my stuff and at the same time create something that holds meaning to me (before they were just more stuff on the shelves)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually just &#8220;refashioning&#8221; my photo albums.<br />
I call it refashioning because I have used a long time cutting in the photos, colouring and using old drawing to sorta make it special. (I guess one could call it scrapbooking)</p>
<p>Fighting with depression and anxiety, it has been a really good thing to be able to look back at my life and realise that not everything has been pain and suffering.(to put it bluntly)</p>
<p>For me it is very important to have these tangible photo albums. Yes I know they might just last longer and all that if I had them scanned.<br />
But for me, that was not the goal.<br />
The goal was to minimize my stuff and at the same time create something that holds meaning to me (before they were just more stuff on the shelves)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rachel,

Unfortunately, the type of scanner you are referring to is going to leave a lot of the original information embedded in the negative behind.  I&#039;ve seen the difference between a $100 scanner, a $1000 Nikon Coolscan 5000ED scanner, and a professional multiple-$K drum scanner and you would be astounded at how much cleaner the photos look as you go up the equipment scale.  

This is especially true for those difficult photos where the camera wasn&#039;t set right, the light was bad - and often these are the ones which have some relative in the corner that appears nowhere else and is now long gone.  Often you don&#039;t know which photos are the critical ones where you need to go &#039;all out&#039; for years or decades.

In other words, the information content of the negative is very high and it&#039;s a compact physical form.  You can scan too for the convenience of replication, but it is really not going to replace the original information.  Having both is always a good idea - and approximately 200 rolls of negatives fit in a single 3.5 inch binder using PrintFile or some such negative sleeve holding one roll per page.  (See the Light Impressions website for supplies.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rachel,</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the type of scanner you are referring to is going to leave a lot of the original information embedded in the negative behind.  I&#8217;ve seen the difference between a $100 scanner, a $1000 Nikon Coolscan 5000ED scanner, and a professional multiple-$K drum scanner and you would be astounded at how much cleaner the photos look as you go up the equipment scale.  </p>
<p>This is especially true for those difficult photos where the camera wasn&#8217;t set right, the light was bad &#8211; and often these are the ones which have some relative in the corner that appears nowhere else and is now long gone.  Often you don&#8217;t know which photos are the critical ones where you need to go &#8216;all out&#8217; for years or decades.</p>
<p>In other words, the information content of the negative is very high and it&#8217;s a compact physical form.  You can scan too for the convenience of replication, but it is really not going to replace the original information.  Having both is always a good idea &#8211; and approximately 200 rolls of negatives fit in a single 3.5 inch binder using PrintFile or some such negative sleeve holding one roll per page.  (See the Light Impressions website for supplies.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel B. from MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel B. from MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 06:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of people seem up in arms about the &quot;throw away the negatives&quot; comment, but there is a quick and easy fix for it. At Bed,Bath &amp; Beyond, I purchased a Negatives scanner for $100, and you just insert the negative and it uploads it right into your computer through a USB cord. It also has a slot for a memory card, so you can make hard copies, and deposit them in a safety deposit box, which I think is the safest option when protecting pictures.  Also, the uploads on the computer can be used to print out 100% original copies whenever you want.  So, bottom line... Scan you negatives, then TOSS them out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people seem up in arms about the &#8220;throw away the negatives&#8221; comment, but there is a quick and easy fix for it. At Bed,Bath &amp; Beyond, I purchased a Negatives scanner for $100, and you just insert the negative and it uploads it right into your computer through a USB cord. It also has a slot for a memory card, so you can make hard copies, and deposit them in a safety deposit box, which I think is the safest option when protecting pictures.  Also, the uploads on the computer can be used to print out 100% original copies whenever you want.  So, bottom line&#8230; Scan you negatives, then TOSS them out!</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a working photographer and a twenty something that shoots both digital and film for school and work, I can honestly day binning the negatives would be one of the graves mistakes you could make. 

Unless you&#039;re shelling out $40,000+ on your next digital camera, the negatives produce a far better print than any of the point-and-shoot cameras today. Contrary to the article most photo-printers are not printing digitally. All of the 4x6&#039;s that people get printed are still exposed to light sensitive paper and chemically developed, even if they came from a digital file. This is not the same as the larger format digital printing that professional photographers tend to get done. 

Unless you have a drum scanner or something like  Nikon Coolscan, scanning the negatives on your own is pointless. It will be less expensive to send off your negatives to a company like ScanCafe, but if you&#039;re worried about your negatives getting lost overseas there are brick and mortar photography stores that will scan them. Keep in mind, if the negatives were cut, even into strips of five or six, it will be far more expensive to get those scanned than if you had a full strip of 35mm film. 

Now as a photographer with a lot of money invested in digital, I still shoot film, mostly medium format black and white, for the sense of permanency and the chance to physically interact with the medium. There is something about leafing through prints and holding negatives up to the light that you will never get staring into the screen of your computer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a working photographer and a twenty something that shoots both digital and film for school and work, I can honestly day binning the negatives would be one of the graves mistakes you could make. </p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re shelling out $40,000+ on your next digital camera, the negatives produce a far better print than any of the point-and-shoot cameras today. Contrary to the article most photo-printers are not printing digitally. All of the 4&#215;6&#8242;s that people get printed are still exposed to light sensitive paper and chemically developed, even if they came from a digital file. This is not the same as the larger format digital printing that professional photographers tend to get done. </p>
<p>Unless you have a drum scanner or something like  Nikon Coolscan, scanning the negatives on your own is pointless. It will be less expensive to send off your negatives to a company like ScanCafe, but if you&#8217;re worried about your negatives getting lost overseas there are brick and mortar photography stores that will scan them. Keep in mind, if the negatives were cut, even into strips of five or six, it will be far more expensive to get those scanned than if you had a full strip of 35mm film. </p>
<p>Now as a photographer with a lot of money invested in digital, I still shoot film, mostly medium format black and white, for the sense of permanency and the chance to physically interact with the medium. There is something about leafing through prints and holding negatives up to the light that you will never get staring into the screen of your computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 03:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am actually very interested in the next step after all the photos have been scanned in.. as I&#039;ve just spent the last 2 years scanning in all my family photos (about 17gb worth!)

Now my next step is sorting into decades, removing duplicates and adding detail (probably using Picasa) and tagging. My question would be.. for those of you who tag your photos, what tag system have you used that has worked for you, and you have been able to maintain without it being too much of a chore to tag every time you add a new photo?

Personally, with that amount of data it&#039;s not really feasible for me to upload it all on Flickr - and I am reluctant to delete a single one as most were taken by my late father). I simply keep several backups on keys, hard drives, mum&#039;s place and a friend&#039;s place, and every month or so as I add new photos I will use some synching software at each location to make sure everything is in sync.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually very interested in the next step after all the photos have been scanned in.. as I&#8217;ve just spent the last 2 years scanning in all my family photos (about 17gb worth!)</p>
<p>Now my next step is sorting into decades, removing duplicates and adding detail (probably using Picasa) and tagging. My question would be.. for those of you who tag your photos, what tag system have you used that has worked for you, and you have been able to maintain without it being too much of a chore to tag every time you add a new photo?</p>
<p>Personally, with that amount of data it&#8217;s not really feasible for me to upload it all on Flickr &#8211; and I am reluctant to delete a single one as most were taken by my late father). I simply keep several backups on keys, hard drives, mum&#8217;s place and a friend&#8217;s place, and every month or so as I add new photos I will use some synching software at each location to make sure everything is in sync.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have inherited photographs from one great grandparent, all four grandparents, my uncle and my mother. Everyone knows that I care about the family history, so I&#039;m the lucky one with all the photos. Unfortunately they take up about three plastic bins and two large boxes of space and I never look at them. There are too many. I keep saying I&#039;ll go through them, but I never do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have inherited photographs from one great grandparent, all four grandparents, my uncle and my mother. Everyone knows that I care about the family history, so I&#8217;m the lucky one with all the photos. Unfortunately they take up about three plastic bins and two large boxes of space and I never look at them. There are too many. I keep saying I&#8217;ll go through them, but I never do.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was lucky that I was so anal about my photos in the past: http://petty.me.uk/?p=304]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was lucky that I was so anal about my photos in the past: <a href="http://petty.me.uk/?p=304" rel="nofollow">http://petty.me.uk/?p=304</a></p>
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		<title>By: MomPaula</title>
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		<dc:creator>MomPaula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing you could do, is scan in the photos to shutterfly or lulu or some such, and make books out of them. You and your sister could each have one then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing you could do, is scan in the photos to shutterfly or lulu or some such, and make books out of them. You and your sister could each have one then.</p>
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		<title>By: Visty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Visty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have spent years decluttering and getting down to a minimum, and if there is one thing I could have back right now, it would be all my negatives. I didn&#039;t realize back when my first child was a baby 13 years ago that prints aren&#039;t good enough, and that a picture I thought was bad was really just a bad printing. A negative reprinted at another lab would have given me a perfect photo. I have tried to scan my photos, but even my high quality scanner isn&#039;t giving me what I could have had with the negative. I can get really melancholy at the thought of all those photos lost, if I think about it too hard. It&#039;s really the only thing I regret ever tossing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent years decluttering and getting down to a minimum, and if there is one thing I could have back right now, it would be all my negatives. I didn&#8217;t realize back when my first child was a baby 13 years ago that prints aren&#8217;t good enough, and that a picture I thought was bad was really just a bad printing. A negative reprinted at another lab would have given me a perfect photo. I have tried to scan my photos, but even my high quality scanner isn&#8217;t giving me what I could have had with the negative. I can get really melancholy at the thought of all those photos lost, if I think about it too hard. It&#8217;s really the only thing I regret ever tossing.</p>
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		<title>By: OogieM</title>
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		<dc:creator>OogieM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Light Impressions also has lots of stuff for storing film negatives, from old glass plates to all sizes of large format film as well as 35 mm styles. All are archival quality too which is also very important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Light Impressions also has lots of stuff for storing film negatives, from old glass plates to all sizes of large format film as well as 35 mm styles. All are archival quality too which is also very important.</p>
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