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		<title>By: chacha1</title>
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		<dc:creator>chacha1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the museum had a great idea.  The purpose, after all, of publicly-funded museums and archives is to preserve things to which the public assigns value. ... Physical objects are very rarely unique.  A rhino skull is just a bone, even if a famous person shot the rhino.  The *story* is worth keeping; the bone, probably not.  Likewise the basket.  Auction these things off, perhaps.  

Letting the public render opinion on things that were, as someone else noted, already on the chopping block just makes the process open and fair.  The public has a right to comment on what their taxes should maintain for the future.  People who would fill out a feedback card for these things are people who already visit and value the museum, so it&#039;s not like they don&#039;t have at least some familiarity with the material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the museum had a great idea.  The purpose, after all, of publicly-funded museums and archives is to preserve things to which the public assigns value. &#8230; Physical objects are very rarely unique.  A rhino skull is just a bone, even if a famous person shot the rhino.  The *story* is worth keeping; the bone, probably not.  Likewise the basket.  Auction these things off, perhaps.  </p>
<p>Letting the public render opinion on things that were, as someone else noted, already on the chopping block just makes the process open and fair.  The public has a right to comment on what their taxes should maintain for the future.  People who would fill out a feedback card for these things are people who already visit and value the museum, so it&#8217;s not like they don&#8217;t have at least some familiarity with the material.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Doland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gina -- I don&#039;t own Birkenstocks, nor have I ever seen Pearl Jam live. It was just a made-up example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gina &#8212; I don&#8217;t own Birkenstocks, nor have I ever seen Pearl Jam live. It was just a made-up example.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well -- I wouldn&#039;t keep birkenstocks BECAUSE I&#039;d seen Pearl Jam in them. I&#039;d keep them if I still wore them. Period. 

Shoes are shoes are shoes -- do you really need to have a friend tell you it&#039;s ok to throw them out?

Or are you saying you&#039;d display 5 items and let your friends pick out one of them to get rid of? Really? If you&#039;re that detached to the fate of them, throw them all away and go do something more interesting with your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8212; I wouldn&#8217;t keep birkenstocks BECAUSE I&#8217;d seen Pearl Jam in them. I&#8217;d keep them if I still wore them. Period. </p>
<p>Shoes are shoes are shoes &#8212; do you really need to have a friend tell you it&#8217;s ok to throw them out?</p>
<p>Or are you saying you&#8217;d display 5 items and let your friends pick out one of them to get rid of? Really? If you&#8217;re that detached to the fate of them, throw them all away and go do something more interesting with your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll beg off the party idea (it&#039;s something I&#039;d never do, unless maybe every at the party was participating), but I do think it&#039;s a great idea for the museum. How interesting to see what&#039;s in the basement and behind the scenes!

I&#039;m hoping instead of just tossing the old unwanted stuff, though, they would think to sell or auction it on eBay. I&#039;m sure people would buy those fossil slides for $5 each.... that&#039;s over a million dollars in return. The basket, though, I would say should go in the junk pile!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll beg off the party idea (it&#8217;s something I&#8217;d never do, unless maybe every at the party was participating), but I do think it&#8217;s a great idea for the museum. How interesting to see what&#8217;s in the basement and behind the scenes!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping instead of just tossing the old unwanted stuff, though, they would think to sell or auction it on eBay. I&#8217;m sure people would buy those fossil slides for $5 each&#8230;. that&#8217;s over a million dollars in return. The basket, though, I would say should go in the junk pile!  <img src='http://unclutterer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The state museum nearby has regular sales of props and other bits of exhibits for the purpose of raising funds. I think it&#039;s silly to expect museums to hold on to everything forever. I can assure you that archives have a destroy and shred schedule as well. The public likes to assume &quot;forever&quot; with no respect as to actual value or storage space considerations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The state museum nearby has regular sales of props and other bits of exhibits for the purpose of raising funds. I think it&#8217;s silly to expect museums to hold on to everything forever. I can assure you that archives have a destroy and shred schedule as well. The public likes to assume &#8220;forever&#8221; with no respect as to actual value or storage space considerations.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting article!  Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In doing this, the host would have to be most careful about assuring that the items to be judged are NOT items given the host by the attendees.  One can imagine the interesting conversations/confrontations and immense amount of resulting offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In doing this, the host would have to be most careful about assuring that the items to be judged are NOT items given the host by the attendees.  One can imagine the interesting conversations/confrontations and immense amount of resulting offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is pretty neat. I would also want someone to tell me if they would like a particular item or could imagine a good home for it, though I recognize this might taint the process (&quot;no, no, don&#039;t keep that, but I&#039;ll take it off your hands...&quot;). 

I do agree with the poster (Mletta?) to the extent she noted that the purging process is made bearable by the knowledge that the stuff you let go of actually goes somewhere.  I mean, it was useful and/or beautiful to you in some capacity at some time, and our landfills are crazy-full, so my inner hippie really likes a solution where the stuff I don&#039;t keep goes to someone somewhere (not the rubbish bin).  My friends and I do this with a clothing swap at least once per year; their frank opinions are a big part of how I determine whether to keep items I&#039;m on the fence about.  

Having said that, I will never, ever get rid of my Birkenstocks. But I&#039;d &quot;display&quot; the really adorable Pooh bear my college boyfriend bought for me and a large number of lovely Christmas ornaments that don&#039;t fit with our approach to decorating the tree. (We buy one ornament per year to commemorate something significant to us, rendering a lot of other ornaments pretty but pretty useless, unless we display them around the house. But we can only use so many in that capacity.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is pretty neat. I would also want someone to tell me if they would like a particular item or could imagine a good home for it, though I recognize this might taint the process (&#8220;no, no, don&#8217;t keep that, but I&#8217;ll take it off your hands&#8230;&#8221;). </p>
<p>I do agree with the poster (Mletta?) to the extent she noted that the purging process is made bearable by the knowledge that the stuff you let go of actually goes somewhere.  I mean, it was useful and/or beautiful to you in some capacity at some time, and our landfills are crazy-full, so my inner hippie really likes a solution where the stuff I don&#8217;t keep goes to someone somewhere (not the rubbish bin).  My friends and I do this with a clothing swap at least once per year; their frank opinions are a big part of how I determine whether to keep items I&#8217;m on the fence about.  </p>
<p>Having said that, I will never, ever get rid of my Birkenstocks. But I&#8217;d &#8220;display&#8221; the really adorable Pooh bear my college boyfriend bought for me and a large number of lovely Christmas ornaments that don&#8217;t fit with our approach to decorating the tree. (We buy one ornament per year to commemorate something significant to us, rendering a lot of other ornaments pretty but pretty useless, unless we display them around the house. But we can only use so many in that capacity.)</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the people who thought an American Decluttering Idol Party would be fun...for me. But then again, I am so detached from my stuff that I was able to gleefully sell 95% of it and move full-time into a 300 square foot RV. 

It fascinates me that some people responded so viscerally to the idea that they actually shuddered. We&#039;re all in a different place with our decluttering, and this is another example of why it can be so difficult because it can be so emotional. 

Interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the people who thought an American Decluttering Idol Party would be fun&#8230;for me. But then again, I am so detached from my stuff that I was able to gleefully sell 95% of it and move full-time into a 300 square foot RV. </p>
<p>It fascinates me that some people responded so viscerally to the idea that they actually shuddered. We&#8217;re all in a different place with our decluttering, and this is another example of why it can be so difficult because it can be so emotional. </p>
<p>Interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the impression that the museum was taking opinions on items that were already &#039;on the chopping block&#039; more for the fun of it and to draw attention to this task of purging than to really decide what is going. I think that&#039;s acceptable. After all, even museums need to pick and choose. They could even cite the reasons the item is going to be purged (duplicate, poor condition, lack of significance...etc).

As to what they should do with it all. They should have an auction of the purged stuff to benefit the museum! Sounds like that basket isn&#039;t of any cultural significance (though it probably has its own fan club now), but hey, it is a basket. If it is in good shape, someone buy it for a couple of bucks and use it to gather fruit. The rhino skull, (are they getting rid of it because they have multiples? How funny that would be!) maybe not so useful, but could be an interesting decorative piece that someone could enjoy in their home. Better than it sitting in storage for all eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the impression that the museum was taking opinions on items that were already &#8216;on the chopping block&#8217; more for the fun of it and to draw attention to this task of purging than to really decide what is going. I think that&#8217;s acceptable. After all, even museums need to pick and choose. They could even cite the reasons the item is going to be purged (duplicate, poor condition, lack of significance&#8230;etc).</p>
<p>As to what they should do with it all. They should have an auction of the purged stuff to benefit the museum! Sounds like that basket isn&#8217;t of any cultural significance (though it probably has its own fan club now), but hey, it is a basket. If it is in good shape, someone buy it for a couple of bucks and use it to gather fruit. The rhino skull, (are they getting rid of it because they have multiples? How funny that would be!) maybe not so useful, but could be an interesting decorative piece that someone could enjoy in their home. Better than it sitting in storage for all eternity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin,  I completely agree with you. Uncluttering can be fun and is so freeing. I like my friends and families opinions and of course, it is always my final decision what to do with my stuff. We would laugh our heads off having a party with items in question and response cards. A bottle of wine would make it even more fun!

And, it&#039;s wonderful for a museum to ask for the visitor&#039;s opinion. It&#039;s nice to know the public opinion is appreciated. 

Lighten up folks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin,  I completely agree with you. Uncluttering can be fun and is so freeing. I like my friends and families opinions and of course, it is always my final decision what to do with my stuff. We would laugh our heads off having a party with items in question and response cards. A bottle of wine would make it even more fun!</p>
<p>And, it&#8217;s wonderful for a museum to ask for the visitor&#8217;s opinion. It&#8217;s nice to know the public opinion is appreciated. </p>
<p>Lighten up folks!</p>
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		<title>By: Sometimez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sometimez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take is that the museum is requesting opinions from visitors, not that the visitors are making the actual decisions. Curators&#039; training and focus might cause them to overlook possibilities that could occur to some of the (tsk) Great Unwashed.

I volunteered at a history museum which was trying to sort through multiples of some items. The museum had served as an attic in the past, accepting everything offered, but was developing guidelines for what donations it would and would not agree to take in the future, according to how the things aligned with the museum&#039;s mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take is that the museum is requesting opinions from visitors, not that the visitors are making the actual decisions. Curators&#8217; training and focus might cause them to overlook possibilities that could occur to some of the (tsk) Great Unwashed.</p>
<p>I volunteered at a history museum which was trying to sort through multiples of some items. The museum had served as an attic in the past, accepting everything offered, but was developing guidelines for what donations it would and would not agree to take in the future, according to how the things aligned with the museum&#8217;s mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Mletta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mletta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin
Your note explains what wasn&#039;t clear in the post. It wasn&#039;t clear that you viewed this as a form of entertainment. 

However, I still feel it&#039;s too much like an episode of American Idol...with voting and such. And I still absolutely hate it for a museum. 

The bit with your friends might be fun for some folks, but really if it&#039;s only a few items, just make the decision to keep or toss--lots of time to decide the fate of a few items, really. If it&#039;s an excuse to have a gathering, well, that&#039;s a whole other thing.


Let me say that since a lot of stuff is often retained for sentimental value, having your friends vote could actually be not so much fun. You might find out some things about them in the process, and their feelings about you, that you really don&#039;t want to know. 

It&#039;s like they say: Never ask a question unless you&#039;re prepared for the answer.

Erin writes:
It’s important to be able to laugh at the clutter in our lives.

Hmm. Well, I think it&#039;s important to keep perspective about it. I don&#039;t need to laugh when I&#039;m tossing, although I have had to laugh, when I looked back at what was once important. Some things made me laugh, but honestly, a lot of decluttering is painful for many reasons.

Love your blog and your ideas but I&#039;m agreeing to disagree on these bits.

Thanks, M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin<br />
Your note explains what wasn&#8217;t clear in the post. It wasn&#8217;t clear that you viewed this as a form of entertainment. </p>
<p>However, I still feel it&#8217;s too much like an episode of American Idol&#8230;with voting and such. And I still absolutely hate it for a museum. </p>
<p>The bit with your friends might be fun for some folks, but really if it&#8217;s only a few items, just make the decision to keep or toss&#8211;lots of time to decide the fate of a few items, really. If it&#8217;s an excuse to have a gathering, well, that&#8217;s a whole other thing.</p>
<p>Let me say that since a lot of stuff is often retained for sentimental value, having your friends vote could actually be not so much fun. You might find out some things about them in the process, and their feelings about you, that you really don&#8217;t want to know. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like they say: Never ask a question unless you&#8217;re prepared for the answer.</p>
<p>Erin writes:<br />
It’s important to be able to laugh at the clutter in our lives.</p>
<p>Hmm. Well, I think it&#8217;s important to keep perspective about it. I don&#8217;t need to laugh when I&#8217;m tossing, although I have had to laugh, when I looked back at what was once important. Some things made me laugh, but honestly, a lot of decluttering is painful for many reasons.</p>
<p>Love your blog and your ideas but I&#8217;m agreeing to disagree on these bits.</p>
<p>Thanks, M</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Doland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mletta and Sooz -- I think you&#039;re missing the point of the items on display for your friends to choose. I&#039;m imagining having five or 10 items, and all of them being entertaining objects. A pair of Birkenstocks from the early 1990s that you wore to see Pearl Jam in for the first time. A pin that you wore on your favorite jacket for years of the symbol Prince changed his name to when he was upset about his record contract. The first mixtape your boyfriend made for you in the eighth grade -- full of Phil Collins and Air Supply songs. These are at least the objects I would use!

It&#039;s important to be able to laugh at the clutter in our lives. Obviously, this suggestion would be atrocious for someone downsizing and going in to a nursing home. However, I don&#039;t think my suggestion in the post indicated doing something like this in that situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mletta and Sooz &#8212; I think you&#8217;re missing the point of the items on display for your friends to choose. I&#8217;m imagining having five or 10 items, and all of them being entertaining objects. A pair of Birkenstocks from the early 1990s that you wore to see Pearl Jam in for the first time. A pin that you wore on your favorite jacket for years of the symbol Prince changed his name to when he was upset about his record contract. The first mixtape your boyfriend made for you in the eighth grade &#8212; full of Phil Collins and Air Supply songs. These are at least the objects I would use!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to be able to laugh at the clutter in our lives. Obviously, this suggestion would be atrocious for someone downsizing and going in to a nursing home. However, I don&#8217;t think my suggestion in the post indicated doing something like this in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sooz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sooz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Mletta!

As to &quot;throw a party and let your friends tell you what they really think of your stuff&quot; -- are you kidding? To me that is a truly GHASTLY idea.  And you think one could &quot;keep it fun&quot;??

It sounds like the concept for a bad reality show, one where the end result would be to purge oneself of some &quot;friends&quot;!

Frankly, I don&#039;t care one iota what my friends (or any other visitors to my home) think of my stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Mletta!</p>
<p>As to &#8220;throw a party and let your friends tell you what they really think of your stuff&#8221; &#8212; are you kidding? To me that is a truly GHASTLY idea.  And you think one could &#8220;keep it fun&#8221;??</p>
<p>It sounds like the concept for a bad reality show, one where the end result would be to purge oneself of some &#8220;friends&#8221;!</p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t care one iota what my friends (or any other visitors to my home) think of my stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Mletta! Exactly right!</description>
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		<title>By: Mletta</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2009/11/16/uncluttering-a-london-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-45796</link>
		<dc:creator>Mletta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thought of the &quot;general public&quot; weighing in on what a museum should keep is appalling to me. The only thing more upsetting: Having friends and family &quot;vote&quot; on what I should keep in my &quot;collections.&quot;

It&#039;s one thing if you&#039;re an expert in the area of the subject matter of the items being considered for tossing. But the general public?

Which of course will include people with all kinds of personal and professional agendas about the items. 

Ugh. Totally turns me off and if I were a curator who&#039;d worked for years to preserve stuff, I&#039;d be apoplectic (SP?) 

What qualifies the man on the street to say what is valuable in a museum? Sorry, but the average person isn&#039;t even well-educated these days about literature or history to have an inkling of what might be of value and why. (It&#039;s like asking people who&#039;ve never been in an art museum to decide what The Met should keep!)

And even close friends and family (who don&#039;t live with me) don&#039;t get to tell me what&#039;s of value and worth keeping. Nor do I get to tell them!

It&#039;s bad enough when we are suddenly seriously ill, or incapacitated and can no longer make decisions, that people do this with our stuff. And it&#039;s generally pretty horrible when people do it to their parents and elderly relatives when they are forced to move out of a home/apt to a nursing home or ALF. 

now we&#039;re doing it with museum stuff.

Shudder. Shudder. Shudder.

PS: Have you ever done a column on de-cluttering of people&#039;s stuff when they have little to no say in it?

Cause that&#039;s something that should be addressed.

When our mother finally moved from her apartment to Assisted Living, I made very sure that she was given choices and consulted on the disposition of things (we were lucky in that she was of sound mind)because I understood how traumatic it was for many reasons. 

I have, however, seen families where people totally bulldoze the relatives and just toss, take and sell off stuff with no regard to the person&#039;s feelings, etc. It&#039;s thoughtless and cruel and actual abuse.

Yea, it can be tough negotiating with a relative and getting them to accept, but NO ONE should have their stuff treated without respect (we&#039;re NOT talking here about hoarders and people whose homes are safety hazards, etc. That&#039;s a different story.)

FYI: If you own things that you want passed on or otherwise have a clear idea of what you want done with them, make sure they are in a will! 

That applies to all of us regular folks and not just those with money and big $ stuff. I&#039;ve seen families end up not speaking because people either did not leave instructions or they were ignored. Sentimental value is something you can never underestimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thought of the &#8220;general public&#8221; weighing in on what a museum should keep is appalling to me. The only thing more upsetting: Having friends and family &#8220;vote&#8221; on what I should keep in my &#8220;collections.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing if you&#8217;re an expert in the area of the subject matter of the items being considered for tossing. But the general public?</p>
<p>Which of course will include people with all kinds of personal and professional agendas about the items. </p>
<p>Ugh. Totally turns me off and if I were a curator who&#8217;d worked for years to preserve stuff, I&#8217;d be apoplectic (SP?) </p>
<p>What qualifies the man on the street to say what is valuable in a museum? Sorry, but the average person isn&#8217;t even well-educated these days about literature or history to have an inkling of what might be of value and why. (It&#8217;s like asking people who&#8217;ve never been in an art museum to decide what The Met should keep!)</p>
<p>And even close friends and family (who don&#8217;t live with me) don&#8217;t get to tell me what&#8217;s of value and worth keeping. Nor do I get to tell them!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough when we are suddenly seriously ill, or incapacitated and can no longer make decisions, that people do this with our stuff. And it&#8217;s generally pretty horrible when people do it to their parents and elderly relatives when they are forced to move out of a home/apt to a nursing home or ALF. </p>
<p>now we&#8217;re doing it with museum stuff.</p>
<p>Shudder. Shudder. Shudder.</p>
<p>PS: Have you ever done a column on de-cluttering of people&#8217;s stuff when they have little to no say in it?</p>
<p>Cause that&#8217;s something that should be addressed.</p>
<p>When our mother finally moved from her apartment to Assisted Living, I made very sure that she was given choices and consulted on the disposition of things (we were lucky in that she was of sound mind)because I understood how traumatic it was for many reasons. </p>
<p>I have, however, seen families where people totally bulldoze the relatives and just toss, take and sell off stuff with no regard to the person&#8217;s feelings, etc. It&#8217;s thoughtless and cruel and actual abuse.</p>
<p>Yea, it can be tough negotiating with a relative and getting them to accept, but NO ONE should have their stuff treated without respect (we&#8217;re NOT talking here about hoarders and people whose homes are safety hazards, etc. That&#8217;s a different story.)</p>
<p>FYI: If you own things that you want passed on or otherwise have a clear idea of what you want done with them, make sure they are in a will! </p>
<p>That applies to all of us regular folks and not just those with money and big $ stuff. I&#8217;ve seen families end up not speaking because people either did not leave instructions or they were ignored. Sentimental value is something you can never underestimate.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2009/11/16/uncluttering-a-london-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-45795</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of this stuff - like slides and lecture notes can be digitized.  Yes it takes some time, but you can save it and not take up more space than a hard drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of this stuff &#8211; like slides and lecture notes can be digitized.  Yes it takes some time, but you can save it and not take up more space than a hard drive.</p>
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		<title>By: dtj</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2009/11/16/uncluttering-a-london-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-45794</link>
		<dc:creator>dtj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a great idea for a website! 

Kind of a clutter version of the amihotornot meme. Denizens of the net get to play Roman Emperor on your crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a great idea for a website! </p>
<p>Kind of a clutter version of the amihotornot meme. Denizens of the net get to play Roman Emperor on your crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalani</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2009/11/16/uncluttering-a-london-museum/comment-page-1/#comment-45793</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, part of what makes the purging process possible is the knowledge that places exist where everything is kept permanently.  I really like the concept of some kind of central treasure trove of our collective past. Museums and archive collections represent this for me-- even if I don&#039;t particularly care about an item, a part of me believes it should still exist in someone else&#039;s collection.  I know that this is not the way the real world works, and that rhino skulls and pieces of pottery do end up thrown out and disintegrating.  But it&#039;s sad, somehow, that these institutions inevitably have to go through the purging process as well. 
A similar party would work for some people in some situations, such as an older couple inviting their descendants to help pare down their belongings before moving to a smaller home, and then only in the most understanding of families. Or a couple who has traveled extensively and have a beautiful home teeming with really beautiful artifacts from around the globe-- this too becomes clutter when there&#039;s no more room in the house and many journeys still to be made.  But it wouldn&#039;t work for every household and many of us don&#039;t need input to get over the emotional hurdle of throwing out old costumes or unused office supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, part of what makes the purging process possible is the knowledge that places exist where everything is kept permanently.  I really like the concept of some kind of central treasure trove of our collective past. Museums and archive collections represent this for me&#8211; even if I don&#8217;t particularly care about an item, a part of me believes it should still exist in someone else&#8217;s collection.  I know that this is not the way the real world works, and that rhino skulls and pieces of pottery do end up thrown out and disintegrating.  But it&#8217;s sad, somehow, that these institutions inevitably have to go through the purging process as well.<br />
A similar party would work for some people in some situations, such as an older couple inviting their descendants to help pare down their belongings before moving to a smaller home, and then only in the most understanding of families. Or a couple who has traveled extensively and have a beautiful home teeming with really beautiful artifacts from around the globe&#8211; this too becomes clutter when there&#8217;s no more room in the house and many journeys still to be made.  But it wouldn&#8217;t work for every household and many of us don&#8217;t need input to get over the emotional hurdle of throwing out old costumes or unused office supplies.</p>
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