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		<title>By: Linkblog Slimmer Werken &#8211; 30 okt 2009 &#171; Arjan Zuidhof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkblog Slimmer Werken &#8211; 30 okt 2009 &#171; Arjan Zuidhof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chacha1</title>
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		<dc:creator>chacha1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion!  Productivity doesn&#039;t necessarily mean you&#039;re producing on demand.  It just means you&#039;re not (according to *your own* definition) wasting your time/talent/money.

I think good stress/bad stress is a valid distinction but it might be helpful if we train ourselves to use different terms.  E.g., good stress = stimulus/incentive/inspiration, bad stress = pressure/demand/judgement.  

Good stress is when I have a costume project with a deadline.  I have an incentive (to look good in the costume) and a stimulus (the deadline) and an inspiration (what I want to create).  Bad stress is when I have two equal and opposite demands on my time, no choice about when the demands must be satisfied, no reward for the outcome (i.e. it&#039;s my job to do it), and usually the cherry on top of an equipment failure.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion!  Productivity doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean you&#8217;re producing on demand.  It just means you&#8217;re not (according to *your own* definition) wasting your time/talent/money.</p>
<p>I think good stress/bad stress is a valid distinction but it might be helpful if we train ourselves to use different terms.  E.g., good stress = stimulus/incentive/inspiration, bad stress = pressure/demand/judgement.  </p>
<p>Good stress is when I have a costume project with a deadline.  I have an incentive (to look good in the costume) and a stimulus (the deadline) and an inspiration (what I want to create).  Bad stress is when I have two equal and opposite demands on my time, no choice about when the demands must be satisfied, no reward for the outcome (i.e. it&#8217;s my job to do it), and usually the cherry on top of an equipment failure.  <img src='http://unclutterer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem is that I&#039;m not convinced doing woodworking, knitting, crochet, etc. is always a &quot;production activity&quot; -- that is why people are saying you have a &quot;hot-cold empathy gap&quot;. The motive MIGHT be to produce lots of mittens, to be the optimal mitten-maker ever -- or it might be just a form of relaxation or pleasure-seeking. 

Unless you&#039;ve taken up knitting to sell your wares, why even think of it in terms of production value? You aren&#039;t really working on your productivity -- you&#039;re kanoodling around with yarn. I&#039;m having an issue with calling that a production activity.

Why are we equating activities done for pleasure with activities where what you produce matters? On the job, productivity matters. Things you do for money -- productivity matters. Other things you do to avoid negative consequences -- I&#039;m thinking laundry or cooking supper for your kids -- productivity matters.

Things you do because it&#039;s Thursday night and you&#039;re bored out of your skull -- not so much.

Ultimately, I think we&#039;re overly obsessed with productivity in our culture. I aim to have quality down time, where I don&#039;t have to worry about producing anything of consequence at all. And a lot of it. 

For the interested, I recommend Thorstein Veblen&#039;s &quot;Theory of the Leisure Class&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem is that I&#8217;m not convinced doing woodworking, knitting, crochet, etc. is always a &#8220;production activity&#8221; &#8212; that is why people are saying you have a &#8220;hot-cold empathy gap&#8221;. The motive MIGHT be to produce lots of mittens, to be the optimal mitten-maker ever &#8212; or it might be just a form of relaxation or pleasure-seeking. </p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;ve taken up knitting to sell your wares, why even think of it in terms of production value? You aren&#8217;t really working on your productivity &#8212; you&#8217;re kanoodling around with yarn. I&#8217;m having an issue with calling that a production activity.</p>
<p>Why are we equating activities done for pleasure with activities where what you produce matters? On the job, productivity matters. Things you do for money &#8212; productivity matters. Other things you do to avoid negative consequences &#8212; I&#8217;m thinking laundry or cooking supper for your kids &#8212; productivity matters.</p>
<p>Things you do because it&#8217;s Thursday night and you&#8217;re bored out of your skull &#8212; not so much.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think we&#8217;re overly obsessed with productivity in our culture. I aim to have quality down time, where I don&#8217;t have to worry about producing anything of consequence at all. And a lot of it. </p>
<p>For the interested, I recommend Thorstein Veblen&#8217;s &#8220;Theory of the Leisure Class&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Doland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anita -- No value judgments at all. I&#039;m just saying that humans crave being industrious. Even in our leisure time, we do things like woodworking, fixing up antiques, knitting, crocheting, and other production activities.

I agree that there are &quot;good&quot; forms and &quot;bad&quot; types of stress and the purpose of this article is to have people find ways to use &quot;good&quot; stress to improve their productivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anita &#8212; No value judgments at all. I&#8217;m just saying that humans crave being industrious. Even in our leisure time, we do things like woodworking, fixing up antiques, knitting, crocheting, and other production activities.</p>
<p>I agree that there are &#8220;good&#8221; forms and &#8220;bad&#8221; types of stress and the purpose of this article is to have people find ways to use &#8220;good&#8221; stress to improve their productivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eek, that should read &quot;home&quot; instead of &quot;homw&quot;. Sorry!</description>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin -- The desire to be industrious in order to have a sense of purpose (e.g. in a nursing homw where there is often very little to do), and the desire to maximize one&#039;s productivity at the expense of all else (such as in your example of preferring to work and having little social activity) are two very, very different things.

Of course most human beings want to have some sort of productive activity in order to feel useful. But not everyone wants to be at peak productivity all the time. You love your work and need a sustained productivity rhythm. Fine. Others prefer to work at a slower pace and have more time for leisure, hobbies, introspection, etc. There is no need to jump to extremes, or make value judgements about either work style. I second L.&#039;s point re: &quot;hot-cold empathy gap&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin &#8212; The desire to be industrious in order to have a sense of purpose (e.g. in a nursing homw where there is often very little to do), and the desire to maximize one&#8217;s productivity at the expense of all else (such as in your example of preferring to work and having little social activity) are two very, very different things.</p>
<p>Of course most human beings want to have some sort of productive activity in order to feel useful. But not everyone wants to be at peak productivity all the time. You love your work and need a sustained productivity rhythm. Fine. Others prefer to work at a slower pace and have more time for leisure, hobbies, introspection, etc. There is no need to jump to extremes, or make value judgements about either work style. I second L.&#8217;s point re: &#8220;hot-cold empathy gap&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Doland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L. -- Read any study about depression in nursing homes and one of the leading factors is that people feel they are no longer &quot;needed&quot; or &quot;useful.&quot; The elderly often want to help with the dishes in the kitchen or run the vacuum cleaner simply to have a purpose. If you don&#039;t believe me about the human desire to be industrious, please visit a nursing home and talk to the people who work there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L. &#8212; Read any study about depression in nursing homes and one of the leading factors is that people feel they are no longer &#8220;needed&#8221; or &#8220;useful.&#8221; The elderly often want to help with the dishes in the kitchen or run the vacuum cleaner simply to have a purpose. If you don&#8217;t believe me about the human desire to be industrious, please visit a nursing home and talk to the people who work there.</p>
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		<title>By: ami</title>
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		<dc:creator>ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with the camp that believes in good and bad stress.  When I took a public speaking class, the teacher advised us that the trick was not to avoid the butterflies but to get the butterflies to fly in formation.  His point being that a little bit of stress does lend your performance focus, energy and intensity - but a lot of stress can hurt your performance.  So with life, a little stress can help you peak, a lot can be debilitating.

Erin - I think your point about loving your work illustrates this.  I would argue that your work is an example of a manageable stress (therefore &quot;good&quot; stress).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with the camp that believes in good and bad stress.  When I took a public speaking class, the teacher advised us that the trick was not to avoid the butterflies but to get the butterflies to fly in formation.  His point being that a little bit of stress does lend your performance focus, energy and intensity &#8211; but a lot of stress can hurt your performance.  So with life, a little stress can help you peak, a lot can be debilitating.</p>
<p>Erin &#8211; I think your point about loving your work illustrates this.  I would argue that your work is an example of a manageable stress (therefore &#8220;good&#8221; stress).</p>
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		<title>By: Irulan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole stress/performance thing is actually an inverted U-shaped curve (See &quot;Yerkes-Dodson Law&quot;). The above comments about the negative effects of chronic stress are right on the money, as well. I won&#039;t muddle into the productivity debate, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole stress/performance thing is actually an inverted U-shaped curve (See &#8220;Yerkes-Dodson Law&#8221;). The above comments about the negative effects of chronic stress are right on the money, as well. I won&#8217;t muddle into the productivity debate, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have loved teaching for the past 22 years, but the stresses I have felt every single day of those years have never abated, have never lessened and have not improved my productivity.  

I wouldn&#039;t tolerate this if I had not already been in several other careers before this and not found anything close to the satisfaction I get from teaching.  It&#039;s still a killer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have loved teaching for the past 22 years, but the stresses I have felt every single day of those years have never abated, have never lessened and have not improved my productivity.  </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t tolerate this if I had not already been in several other careers before this and not found anything close to the satisfaction I get from teaching.  It&#8217;s still a killer.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stress when not taken to the extreme, turns ordinary into extraordinry both mental and physical stress. It also clears your mind so that you can focus on the essential. 

Simple Experiment: Tell some1 they only have 3 days to do something that would normally take a week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stress when not taken to the extreme, turns ordinary into extraordinry both mental and physical stress. It also clears your mind so that you can focus on the essential. </p>
<p>Simple Experiment: Tell some1 they only have 3 days to do something that would normally take a week!</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have &#039;good&#039; stress and &#039;bad&#039; stress.  The good stress helps get me focused and betters my concentration.  The bad stress immobilizes me, gets me scattered.

I welcome good stress any day.  When the bad stress gets a foot hold, i take a long deep breath, jot down those items bothering me, ask for more help to accomplish those items that are creating this stress.

As the &#039;stress&#039; goes, I remind myself to breath and KNOW it will all be just fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have &#8216;good&#8217; stress and &#8216;bad&#8217; stress.  The good stress helps get me focused and betters my concentration.  The bad stress immobilizes me, gets me scattered.</p>
<p>I welcome good stress any day.  When the bad stress gets a foot hold, i take a long deep breath, jot down those items bothering me, ask for more help to accomplish those items that are creating this stress.</p>
<p>As the &#8216;stress&#8217; goes, I remind myself to breath and KNOW it will all be just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin,

You may suffer from &quot;hot-cold empathy gap.&quot; When we are hot, we can&#039;t imagine ever feeling under-dressed. When we are cold, we can&#039;t imagine ever feeling overheated. Similarly because you apparently crave increased productivity and output, you may feel that other people also crave it and/or you can&#039;t imagine a time when you won&#039;t feel that way. Yet that time may come and those people may exist. I have spent so many years working so hard that for one time in my life I don&#039;t actually crave more output, more productivity. I just want to squeeze a little more mindful, delightful living into these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin,</p>
<p>You may suffer from &#8220;hot-cold empathy gap.&#8221; When we are hot, we can&#8217;t imagine ever feeling under-dressed. When we are cold, we can&#8217;t imagine ever feeling overheated. Similarly because you apparently crave increased productivity and output, you may feel that other people also crave it and/or you can&#8217;t imagine a time when you won&#8217;t feel that way. Yet that time may come and those people may exist. I have spent so many years working so hard that for one time in my life I don&#8217;t actually crave more output, more productivity. I just want to squeeze a little more mindful, delightful living into these years.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Doland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin Doland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bryce -- I LOVE to work, even at the expense of many other aspects of my life -- I have few casual relationships, I don&#039;t participate in any community activities, and I took zero days off from work when my son joined our family. Working makes me extremely happy and provides me with an outlet to express my creativity. People are overworked ONLY when they dislike what they are doing and are spinning their wheels while they are at work.

Most human beings crave industriousness. We like to create things -- products, services, ideas -- and feel restless when we aren&#039;t making things. Knitting, for example, has become popular over the past decade because so many people miss the tactile experience of creating something tangible. Saying that humans shouldn&#039;t be encouraged to be more productive is like saying that humans shouldn&#039;t be human.

The goal is to do a job that you love in as productive of a manner as possible and have the rest of your time to pursue your other interests. If any part of your day is spent doing something you hate or don&#039;t want to do better, it is time to find a new career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bryce &#8212; I LOVE to work, even at the expense of many other aspects of my life &#8212; I have few casual relationships, I don&#8217;t participate in any community activities, and I took zero days off from work when my son joined our family. Working makes me extremely happy and provides me with an outlet to express my creativity. People are overworked ONLY when they dislike what they are doing and are spinning their wheels while they are at work.</p>
<p>Most human beings crave industriousness. We like to create things &#8212; products, services, ideas &#8212; and feel restless when we aren&#8217;t making things. Knitting, for example, has become popular over the past decade because so many people miss the tactile experience of creating something tangible. Saying that humans shouldn&#8217;t be encouraged to be more productive is like saying that humans shouldn&#8217;t be human.</p>
<p>The goal is to do a job that you love in as productive of a manner as possible and have the rest of your time to pursue your other interests. If any part of your day is spent doing something you hate or don&#8217;t want to do better, it is time to find a new career.</p>
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		<title>By: Magchunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magchunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do sometimes experience that little burst of productivity in those stressful do-or-die moments, but more often than not I get overwhelmed and freeze up. Stress can be so paralyzing that I end up staring at my constantly growing to-do list agonizing over what to tackle. I&#039;m slowly learning that those are good times for me to use the five-minute rule and start accomplishing smaller tasks. Once I feel productive and can cross things off the daunting list, I start to calm down and can focus.

Thanks for this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do sometimes experience that little burst of productivity in those stressful do-or-die moments, but more often than not I get overwhelmed and freeze up. Stress can be so paralyzing that I end up staring at my constantly growing to-do list agonizing over what to tackle. I&#8217;m slowly learning that those are good times for me to use the five-minute rule and start accomplishing smaller tasks. Once I feel productive and can cross things off the daunting list, I start to calm down and can focus.</p>
<p>Thanks for this post!</p>
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