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		<title>By: Nana</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-36751</link>
		<dc:creator>Nana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice, check out Etsy...60&#039;s aprons are back in style! And the cradle might be repurposed to hold magazines or other Good Stuff.
There are some things in my house that serve no useful purpose...but it brings me joy to see them / remember when they were used, etc. 
But I&#039;ve vowed not to buy another bookcase or bookshelf. One in and one out is the rule!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice, check out Etsy&#8230;60&#8217;s aprons are back in style! And the cradle might be repurposed to hold magazines or other Good Stuff.<br />
There are some things in my house that serve no useful purpose&#8230;but it brings me joy to see them / remember when they were used, etc.<br />
But I&#8217;ve vowed not to buy another bookcase or bookshelf. One in and one out is the rule!</p>
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		<title>By: alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up with a mom who was the &quot;keeper of the stuff&quot; that had come out of her parents&#039; home ( read nice stuff: they had money). Mom had also gotten her own stuff when she and my dad married, but she had the good sense to use the Johnson&#039;s Blue Willow ware china and the real silverware,every day! Her friends gave her grief abt it after our family was featured in a newspaper article in our town. My adult memory of her response included her saying &quot; why wouldn&#039;t I use it???  My family is important! &quot;  There were still lots of boxes to unpack when she died but at least the china had chips and the silver was minimally tarnished because it was still being used, every day. Mom had also given things to her children before she died. 
   Recently, I had the job of clearing my inlaws&#039; home and again have struggled with all the &quot;good stuff&quot; with memories and the rest that&#039;s still good but not memorable.  Anyone enjoy 1960&#039;s retro aprons? The younger daughter thinks the mink jacket is the bomb!
    Now my adult daughters are after me to declutter. I&#039;m trying to put to use as much as practical, give them what they will USE, and give the rest away. The hardest is the 4th generation baby cradle MADE by my great-grandfather. I did use it 25 yrs ago, but now...  I&#039;m sure you see the dilemma. I truly believe in one woman&#039;s trash being another&#039;s treasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up with a mom who was the &#8220;keeper of the stuff&#8221; that had come out of her parents&#8217; home ( read nice stuff: they had money). Mom had also gotten her own stuff when she and my dad married, but she had the good sense to use the Johnson&#8217;s Blue Willow ware china and the real silverware,every day! Her friends gave her grief abt it after our family was featured in a newspaper article in our town. My adult memory of her response included her saying &#8221; why wouldn&#8217;t I use it???  My family is important! &#8221;  There were still lots of boxes to unpack when she died but at least the china had chips and the silver was minimally tarnished because it was still being used, every day. Mom had also given things to her children before she died.<br />
   Recently, I had the job of clearing my inlaws&#8217; home and again have struggled with all the &#8220;good stuff&#8221; with memories and the rest that&#8217;s still good but not memorable.  Anyone enjoy 1960&#8217;s retro aprons? The younger daughter thinks the mink jacket is the bomb!<br />
    Now my adult daughters are after me to declutter. I&#8217;m trying to put to use as much as practical, give them what they will USE, and give the rest away. The hardest is the 4th generation baby cradle MADE by my great-grandfather. I did use it 25 yrs ago, but now&#8230;  I&#8217;m sure you see the dilemma. I truly believe in one woman&#8217;s trash being another&#8217;s treasure.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Scherer</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-16462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Scherer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there never is a lack of anything. Its all in how you look at any problem as it arises. People are always seeking to distract themselves from their fears of lack and thus create lack  by overspending and wastful use of time which drives their fears and wars over everything. Perfect love throws fear out of reasoning that allows people to see how to avoid lack and avoid real dangers. Study Gods real word in the Bible by meditating heavily of 1st Corinthians 12:31 through 1st Corinthians 14:3 and the books of proverbs and Eclesiastes and james often. There is still plenty of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there never is a lack of anything. Its all in how you look at any problem as it arises. People are always seeking to distract themselves from their fears of lack and thus create lack  by overspending and wastful use of time which drives their fears and wars over everything. Perfect love throws fear out of reasoning that allows people to see how to avoid lack and avoid real dangers. Study Gods real word in the Bible by meditating heavily of 1st Corinthians 12:31 through 1st Corinthians 14:3 and the books of proverbs and Eclesiastes and james often. There is still plenty of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My stepfather&#039;s older brother had to be moved to a nursing home and my mom and stepdad had the unenviable job of cleaning out his home and garage.  He&#039;d grown up during the Depression and had saved every single oil filter he&#039;d ever used!
And for people who go &quot;but you&#039;re filling up landfills!&quot;--did you want someone else to have to move your little landfill after you die?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My stepfather&#8217;s older brother had to be moved to a nursing home and my mom and stepdad had the unenviable job of cleaning out his home and garage.  He&#8217;d grown up during the Depression and had saved every single oil filter he&#8217;d ever used!<br />
And for people who go &#8220;but you&#8217;re filling up landfills!&#8221;&#8211;did you want someone else to have to move your little landfill after you die?</p>
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		<title>By: jocelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>jocelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found this over on AARP
http://www.aarpmagazine.org/lifestyle/conquer_clutter.html

&quot;Frost once speculated that adults who exhibited such behavior [hoarding] were responding to childhood poverty, but the studies did not bear this out. He did discover, however, a different background issue—a link to emotional deprivation and the level of warmth expressed in the family during adolescence.&quot;

Frost is the pioneer researcher on chronic hoarding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found this over on AARP<br />
<a href="http://www.aarpmagazine.org/lifestyle/conquer_clutter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aarpmagazine.org/li.....utter.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Frost once speculated that adults who exhibited such behavior [hoarding] were responding to childhood poverty, but the studies did not bear this out. He did discover, however, a different background issue—a link to emotional deprivation and the level of warmth expressed in the family during adolescence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Frost is the pioneer researcher on chronic hoarding</p>
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		<title>By: Mme.G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mme.G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DH&#039;s grammy was also a Depression-era packrat.  She kept everything, including box after box of old issues of McCall&#039;s, Harper&#039;s Bazaar, and Catholic magazines galore.  It would have been something if she&#039;d had some archival training, but the way she&#039;d stored everything, from the slip she wore on her wedding night to the hats her daughters wore to Sunday Mass left the items holey and discolored.  It was an interesting trek back in time, but one that took DH&#039;s aunts many, many months to complete.  I tend toward packratism myself, so I&#039;m trying to pre-empt the boxes of magazines and old clothing, at the very least!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DH&#8217;s grammy was also a Depression-era packrat.  She kept everything, including box after box of old issues of McCall&#8217;s, Harper&#8217;s Bazaar, and Catholic magazines galore.  It would have been something if she&#8217;d had some archival training, but the way she&#8217;d stored everything, from the slip she wore on her wedding night to the hats her daughters wore to Sunday Mass left the items holey and discolored.  It was an interesting trek back in time, but one that took DH&#8217;s aunts many, many months to complete.  I tend toward packratism myself, so I&#8217;m trying to pre-empt the boxes of magazines and old clothing, at the very least!</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very curious to see if the younger generation can find a healthy balance. Environmental concerns make it unacceptable to be blase about tossing good stuff out, while we&#039;re very aware of the problems that come with clutter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very curious to see if the younger generation can find a healthy balance. Environmental concerns make it unacceptable to be blase about tossing good stuff out, while we&#8217;re very aware of the problems that come with clutter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting! My grandmother was a child of the depression and passed away in 2002, but was the exact opposite. She kept nothing except some antique jugs and her books. Everything else (clothes, shoes, kitchen stuff etc) got tossed if she didn&#039;t use it very often. Much to the dismay of the people who lived with her at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting! My grandmother was a child of the depression and passed away in 2002, but was the exact opposite. She kept nothing except some antique jugs and her books. Everything else (clothes, shoes, kitchen stuff etc) got tossed if she didn&#8217;t use it very often. Much to the dismay of the people who lived with her at times.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to sound like too much of a pessimist, but I fear we&#039;re headed into a severe recession that could border on depression.  I won&#039;t go into the details here, but the government has been increasingly fudging the numbers for the past 25 years.  Whatever you hear for unemployment or inflation, the real numbers - using the calculation methods they used to use - are about 2.5x what they&#039;re now reporting.

So what do unclutterers do now?

My thought is, if you focus on buying/owning a few very durable items instead of cheap throwaway versions, you&#039;ll be better positioned to endure economically difficult times.  Sometimes it&#039;s more expensive, and sometimes it&#039;s just more effort to maintain (e.g. cast iron pans).  But it&#039;ll be worth it to minimize clutter and maintain a reasonable life in a hard economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to sound like too much of a pessimist, but I fear we&#8217;re headed into a severe recession that could border on depression.  I won&#8217;t go into the details here, but the government has been increasingly fudging the numbers for the past 25 years.  Whatever you hear for unemployment or inflation, the real numbers &#8211; using the calculation methods they used to use &#8211; are about 2.5x what they&#8217;re now reporting.</p>
<p>So what do unclutterers do now?</p>
<p>My thought is, if you focus on buying/owning a few very durable items instead of cheap throwaway versions, you&#8217;ll be better positioned to endure economically difficult times.  Sometimes it&#8217;s more expensive, and sometimes it&#8217;s just more effort to maintain (e.g. cast iron pans).  But it&#8217;ll be worth it to minimize clutter and maintain a reasonable life in a hard economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean S, 

A lot of us have seen hoarding up close and personal and the hurt that it causes both the hoarders and their loved ones.  Personally, I think is an important issue, especially since many people trying to unclutter may have hoarding tendencies that they&#039;re trying overcome, or may be more interested in uncluttering because they&#039;ve seen hoarding and don&#039;t want to end up that way.    

Re: &quot;Grandma died and all I got was a house full of lousy, worthless crap.&quot;  I don&#039;t think anyone here feels that way. Though I can&#039;t say I know everyone here personally, I&#039;d like to give people the benefit of the doubt and no where have I seen that sort of attitude.  It is true that a loved one&#039;s death can involve quite a bit of work for the surviving loved ones, whether or not they&#039;re hoarders.  That doesn&#039;t lessen their grief by any means, if anything, I think it would make it harder.  And for some people, that may be the first time they see the hoarding or how bad it has become since many hoarding can often come between family members.  It may also bring back a lot of memories and regrets.  In short, it&#039;s tough.  And even if the loved one is alive right now, you may look at the stuff sometimes and realize that that&#039;s what you have to look forward to doing in the future -- not helped by how some hoarders do say things like, &quot;You can throw it out when I&#039;m dead and gone.&quot;  Sad, but true.  

Anyhow, I try not to be judgmental.  We all have our issues, however it&#039;s a serious issue if/when stuff becomes more important than people or just generally gets in the way of someone being happy -- whether you&#039;re talking about hoarding or extreme uncluttering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean S, </p>
<p>A lot of us have seen hoarding up close and personal and the hurt that it causes both the hoarders and their loved ones.  Personally, I think is an important issue, especially since many people trying to unclutter may have hoarding tendencies that they&#8217;re trying overcome, or may be more interested in uncluttering because they&#8217;ve seen hoarding and don&#8217;t want to end up that way.    </p>
<p>Re: &#8220;Grandma died and all I got was a house full of lousy, worthless crap.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think anyone here feels that way. Though I can&#8217;t say I know everyone here personally, I&#8217;d like to give people the benefit of the doubt and no where have I seen that sort of attitude.  It is true that a loved one&#8217;s death can involve quite a bit of work for the surviving loved ones, whether or not they&#8217;re hoarders.  That doesn&#8217;t lessen their grief by any means, if anything, I think it would make it harder.  And for some people, that may be the first time they see the hoarding or how bad it has become since many hoarding can often come between family members.  It may also bring back a lot of memories and regrets.  In short, it&#8217;s tough.  And even if the loved one is alive right now, you may look at the stuff sometimes and realize that that&#8217;s what you have to look forward to doing in the future &#8212; not helped by how some hoarders do say things like, &#8220;You can throw it out when I&#8217;m dead and gone.&#8221;  Sad, but true.  </p>
<p>Anyhow, I try not to be judgmental.  We all have our issues, however it&#8217;s a serious issue if/when stuff becomes more important than people or just generally gets in the way of someone being happy &#8212; whether you&#8217;re talking about hoarding or extreme uncluttering.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Zora!  It&#039;s such a shame that hoarders often become antisocial, not wanting to invite people to their home where they can see their hoarding in action and judge them for it -- especially when they can&#039;t sit down for all the junk.  It wouldn&#039;t surprise me, then, that those same people might distrust others or just not think that others would help them out.  Perhaps it is easier to trust things than people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Zora!  It&#8217;s such a shame that hoarders often become antisocial, not wanting to invite people to their home where they can see their hoarding in action and judge them for it &#8212; especially when they can&#8217;t sit down for all the junk.  It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me, then, that those same people might distrust others or just not think that others would help them out.  Perhaps it is easier to trust things than people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few thoughts:

I agree that holding on to things &quot;just in case&quot; is not worth it, esp. if you can afford to buy whatever it is you might need. I just donated a trash bag full of linens - cloth napkins, tablecloths, table runners - and several perfectly good lamps to Goodwill because I don&#039;t use them. The space I&#039;ve created in my home from this &quot;purge&quot; makes me feel lighter and freer.

That said, I think it&#039;s important not to send items to the landfill that can be reused or repairs. I try to fix rather than replace things that can be fixed, even if it would be easier to replace them. I just took a pair of boots and a purse to a shoemaker for repairs. I could have replaced the boots for $25 more than the cost of the repairs, but I&#039;d rather continue to get more use out of the same pair. I also took a vintage coat to a tailor to have the lining replaced. This will cost approx. $110, which is about what I paid for it. But it&#039;s 100% cashmere, hand stitched, very high quality. The tailor told me it would cost $500 if to buy one of similar quality new. On his advice, however, I&#039;m throwing out another coat, which would cost more that it&#039;s worth to repair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few thoughts:</p>
<p>I agree that holding on to things &#8220;just in case&#8221; is not worth it, esp. if you can afford to buy whatever it is you might need. I just donated a trash bag full of linens &#8211; cloth napkins, tablecloths, table runners &#8211; and several perfectly good lamps to Goodwill because I don&#8217;t use them. The space I&#8217;ve created in my home from this &#8220;purge&#8221; makes me feel lighter and freer.</p>
<p>That said, I think it&#8217;s important not to send items to the landfill that can be reused or repairs. I try to fix rather than replace things that can be fixed, even if it would be easier to replace them. I just took a pair of boots and a purse to a shoemaker for repairs. I could have replaced the boots for $25 more than the cost of the repairs, but I&#8217;d rather continue to get more use out of the same pair. I also took a vintage coat to a tailor to have the lining replaced. This will cost approx. $110, which is about what I paid for it. But it&#8217;s 100% cashmere, hand stitched, very high quality. The tailor told me it would cost $500 if to buy one of similar quality new. On his advice, however, I&#8217;m throwing out another coat, which would cost more that it&#8217;s worth to repair.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was fortunate to have a Mom who lived in the same home she was born in for 71years.  Needless to say her basement became the storage place for all the relatives, friends etc...the ol&#039; can I put this in your basement until routine.  Luckily, she made the decision to sell her home.  She would complain that she wasn&#039;t getting anything done for about a week when it dawned on her that most of the time spent was going through everything before deciding its fate, leaving the space looking as cluttered as when she started...but she got through it and moved in with me.  To this day my sister and I get down on our knees that she did that before she passed!  Of course she had the depression mentality and had to move some of her empty gift boxes and glass jars in with her..you know, just in case...Miss her and am thankful I received the &quot;would I take it with me tomorrow&quot; gene from my Dad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was fortunate to have a Mom who lived in the same home she was born in for 71years.  Needless to say her basement became the storage place for all the relatives, friends etc&#8230;the ol&#8217; can I put this in your basement until routine.  Luckily, she made the decision to sell her home.  She would complain that she wasn&#8217;t getting anything done for about a week when it dawned on her that most of the time spent was going through everything before deciding its fate, leaving the space looking as cluttered as when she started&#8230;but she got through it and moved in with me.  To this day my sister and I get down on our knees that she did that before she passed!  Of course she had the depression mentality and had to move some of her empty gift boxes and glass jars in with her..you know, just in case&#8230;Miss her and am thankful I received the &#8220;would I take it with me tomorrow&#8221; gene from my Dad!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the midst of overcoming that mindset, which I inherited from my parents along with everything they ever owned (in 2006). Yes, storage IS exorbitant. Today, a friend and I spent the afternoon loading up half of the 10x10 storage unit that I am currently emptying (by the end of the month, it&#039;ll all be here). I realized that two years of rental cost me $2,500—far more than what I could ever get if I sold it all!

But I&#039;m proud to say that I&#039;m learning to purge. Everything that&#039;s coming home is being sorted and dealt with immediately. My mantra: &quot;If I were packing up to move across country in six months, would I want to pack this?&quot;

It&#039;s surprising how well that puts it into perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the midst of overcoming that mindset, which I inherited from my parents along with everything they ever owned (in 2006). Yes, storage IS exorbitant. Today, a friend and I spent the afternoon loading up half of the 10&#215;10 storage unit that I am currently emptying (by the end of the month, it&#8217;ll all be here). I realized that two years of rental cost me $2,500—far more than what I could ever get if I sold it all!</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m proud to say that I&#8217;m learning to purge. Everything that&#8217;s coming home is being sorted and dealt with immediately. My mantra: &#8220;If I were packing up to move across country in six months, would I want to pack this?&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s surprising how well that puts it into perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Zora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hoarding mindset is profoundly distrustful -- not only of the future, but of other people. Some of the folks who&#039;ve talked about saving things &quot;just in case&quot; don&#039;t seem to have considered the possibility that if you give away the things you don&#039;t need to people who can actually use them, you create community, and trust, and the real possibility that when you need something, someone else will give it to you. 

I lived overseas for a few years, in a small island country where it was considered rude and vicious not to share. I found it burdensome at times. I took out my needlebook to get a needle for sewing, and the women in the house noticed that I had more needles than I needed. They begged most of them away from me :) But it&#039;s also reassuring to know that if you need something, and they have it, they must share or be shamed. 

One man said, &quot;The white man thinks he&#039;s rich if he has a lot of money in the bank. The Tongan man thinks he&#039;s rich if he has given much away.&quot; 

Giving much away makes it easier to dust, clean, and move, lightens your heart, and strengthens your community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hoarding mindset is profoundly distrustful &#8212; not only of the future, but of other people. Some of the folks who&#8217;ve talked about saving things &#8220;just in case&#8221; don&#8217;t seem to have considered the possibility that if you give away the things you don&#8217;t need to people who can actually use them, you create community, and trust, and the real possibility that when you need something, someone else will give it to you. </p>
<p>I lived overseas for a few years, in a small island country where it was considered rude and vicious not to share. I found it burdensome at times. I took out my needlebook to get a needle for sewing, and the women in the house noticed that I had more needles than I needed. They begged most of them away from me <img src='http://unclutterer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But it&#8217;s also reassuring to know that if you need something, and they have it, they must share or be shamed. </p>
<p>One man said, &#8220;The white man thinks he&#8217;s rich if he has a lot of money in the bank. The Tongan man thinks he&#8217;s rich if he has given much away.&#8221; </p>
<p>Giving much away makes it easier to dust, clean, and move, lightens your heart, and strengthens your community.</p>
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		<title>By: ClickerTrainer</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-15035</link>
		<dc:creator>ClickerTrainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@EMM  I agree.  Dumping still useful items just fills up someone else&#039;s house at best, the local landfill at worst.  think before buying.

Regarding emptying  a relative&#039;s home, keep in mind that you can hire estate services that take care of that sort of thing.  Around here, they make you an offer on the entire contents of the home.  They get the prizes they might find, as well as job of cleaning out the junk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@EMM  I agree.  Dumping still useful items just fills up someone else&#8217;s house at best, the local landfill at worst.  think before buying.</p>
<p>Regarding emptying  a relative&#8217;s home, keep in mind that you can hire estate services that take care of that sort of thing.  Around here, they make you an offer on the entire contents of the home.  They get the prizes they might find, as well as job of cleaning out the junk.</p>
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		<title>By: chelsea rae</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-15029</link>
		<dc:creator>chelsea rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I talk all the time about how this same depression-era mindset still influences the food economy in America; the misled idea of feeding as many as possible as cheaply as possible (grow corn! eat pre-packaged food!)  It&#039;s encouraging to see this idea in a different manifestation, &amp; interesting to think of how many areas in which the United States never recovered from the Depression at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talk all the time about how this same depression-era mindset still influences the food economy in America; the misled idea of feeding as many as possible as cheaply as possible (grow corn! eat pre-packaged food!)  It&#8217;s encouraging to see this idea in a different manifestation, &amp; interesting to think of how many areas in which the United States never recovered from the Depression at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean S</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-15016</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unclutterer used to offer advice for those who wished to unclutter their homes, and the comments were frequently just as helpful, if not more so. But, increasingly, the site is devolving into little more than a place for people  to vent their frustrations and righteous indignation about the unconverted. You talk about decluttering as though it were a moral imperative while casually dismissing hoarding as a vice for disorganized, unenlightened ne&#039;er-do-wells. Grandma died and all I got was a house full of lousy, worthless crap. A touching sentiment, but it&#039;s not exactly helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unclutterer used to offer advice for those who wished to unclutter their homes, and the comments were frequently just as helpful, if not more so. But, increasingly, the site is devolving into little more than a place for people  to vent their frustrations and righteous indignation about the unconverted. You talk about decluttering as though it were a moral imperative while casually dismissing hoarding as a vice for disorganized, unenlightened ne&#8217;er-do-wells. Grandma died and all I got was a house full of lousy, worthless crap. A touching sentiment, but it&#8217;s not exactly helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: EMM</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-15010</link>
		<dc:creator>EMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m far more disturbed about people dumping items that are still intact and useful than I am about clutter. I think the frugal depression era mindset is a good thing. We should all be more mindful of what we use and really need. The wastefulness of a lot of decluttering posts really bothers me.

It&#039;s one thing to be saving broken items and food that you let get old and unusable, that is bad hoarding. But it is quite another thing to keep items that are not used often or may not be used for several years if the cost to replace it with a substandard new one is more than the cost of storing it until needed. 

And I also think that if things are questionable but consumable (clothes that are not quite in style, food you are not fond of but is still ok to eat and the like) that it is much much better to force yourself to wear the item until it&#039;s used up (which sadly takes only a few months with most shoddily made clothing nowadays) or eat the item you are not fond of but don&#039;t ever buy any more. 

And when you do buy something buy the best there is that you can possibly afford and keep it until it&#039;s completely worn out, then replace it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m far more disturbed about people dumping items that are still intact and useful than I am about clutter. I think the frugal depression era mindset is a good thing. We should all be more mindful of what we use and really need. The wastefulness of a lot of decluttering posts really bothers me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to be saving broken items and food that you let get old and unusable, that is bad hoarding. But it is quite another thing to keep items that are not used often or may not be used for several years if the cost to replace it with a substandard new one is more than the cost of storing it until needed. </p>
<p>And I also think that if things are questionable but consumable (clothes that are not quite in style, food you are not fond of but is still ok to eat and the like) that it is much much better to force yourself to wear the item until it&#8217;s used up (which sadly takes only a few months with most shoddily made clothing nowadays) or eat the item you are not fond of but don&#8217;t ever buy any more. </p>
<p>And when you do buy something buy the best there is that you can possibly afford and keep it until it&#8217;s completely worn out, then replace it.</p>
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		<title>By: infmom</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2008/06/23/depression-era-mindset-and-clutter/comment-page-1/#comment-15008</link>
		<dc:creator>infmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father-in-law was much the same.  He saved everything that was &quot;still good&quot; or &quot;might come in handy someday.&quot;  After he died, my mother-in-law moved into a retirement complex and emptying the house for sale meant getting rid of probably a hundred margarine tubs stacked neatly in the garage, a pile of small styrofoam coolers that the VA had shipped his insulin in, an entire drawer full of ossified rubber bands he&#039;d saved off the daily newspaper, and so on and so forth.  It was a whole lot of unnecessary work and those &quot;useful&quot; things never got used.

My husband tends to do the same thing, alas.  There were many years when we had to be as frugal as any two people in the USA could possibly be, when we were both working full time and still qualified for food stamps.  We had to cobble things together, make things do, and scrounge anything useful that we happened to find.  But those days are, thank goodness, in the past, and I&#039;m of the opinion that now we should do things right the first time, replace things that are worn out and NOT save the old one &quot;just in case,&quot; and only pick up other people&#039;s discards if they are going to do something positive, whether useful or decorative.

I still can&#039;t get him to agree to dump the box of old dull drill bits he scrounged out of the neighbors&#039; back yard 25 years ago....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father-in-law was much the same.  He saved everything that was &#8220;still good&#8221; or &#8220;might come in handy someday.&#8221;  After he died, my mother-in-law moved into a retirement complex and emptying the house for sale meant getting rid of probably a hundred margarine tubs stacked neatly in the garage, a pile of small styrofoam coolers that the VA had shipped his insulin in, an entire drawer full of ossified rubber bands he&#8217;d saved off the daily newspaper, and so on and so forth.  It was a whole lot of unnecessary work and those &#8220;useful&#8221; things never got used.</p>
<p>My husband tends to do the same thing, alas.  There were many years when we had to be as frugal as any two people in the USA could possibly be, when we were both working full time and still qualified for food stamps.  We had to cobble things together, make things do, and scrounge anything useful that we happened to find.  But those days are, thank goodness, in the past, and I&#8217;m of the opinion that now we should do things right the first time, replace things that are worn out and NOT save the old one &#8220;just in case,&#8221; and only pick up other people&#8217;s discards if they are going to do something positive, whether useful or decorative.</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t get him to agree to dump the box of old dull drill bits he scrounged out of the neighbors&#8217; back yard 25 years ago&#8230;.</p>
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