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	<title>Comments on: Are Macs more uncluttered than PCs?</title>
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		<title>By: Mimi R</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-44155</link>
		<dc:creator>Mimi R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac users tend to be status- and trend-driven and, frankly, snobbishly left-leaning, versus the general population.  They&#039;re happy to pay more for less.  PCs are better for 98% of possible uses.  Given the political and social leanings of the blog, particularly at the beginning, there is little suprise that there were a preponderance of Macs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac users tend to be status- and trend-driven and, frankly, snobbishly left-leaning, versus the general population.  They&#8217;re happy to pay more for less.  PCs are better for 98% of possible uses.  Given the political and social leanings of the blog, particularly at the beginning, there is little suprise that there were a preponderance of Macs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellis Godard</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-38458</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellis Godard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows&#039;s clutter is up front, in the StartMenu morass!

ellisgodard.blogspot.com/2009/07/unclutter-start-menu.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows&#8217;s clutter is up front, in the StartMenu morass!</p>
<p>ellisgodard.blogspot.com/2009/07/unclutter-start-menu.html</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-25498</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m also a duel user.
Having done Graphic Design as a degree eventually buying a Mac Powerbook was a nessesary evil, and I still haven&#039;t forgiven it.
Personally I find Mac a lot less user friendly. I was brought up on PCs I know my way around them, how to fix them when mildly to slightly upset/not working. Macs freak me out a little, &#039;unexpectedly quit&#039; does ring so true when its happening every five minutes when you&#039;re trying to finish a project!
Has anyone here had a look at some of the STUNNING Alienware PCs out there? *Drool*
As regards reliability my PC has won hands down over and over again against Macs I&#039;ve dealt with, but in Ireland Mac support isn&#039;t great and once something goes wrong and you&#039;re out of warranty, you have a very uncluttered paperweight!

Its definitely down to the user as regards the general neatness of any tech set up! The machie is very rarely at fault, and more times than no its how well the user knows their machine and how to get the very best out of it anyway with the least amount of cables dangling out of the back (and cables in the right slots....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m also a duel user.<br />
Having done Graphic Design as a degree eventually buying a Mac Powerbook was a nessesary evil, and I still haven&#8217;t forgiven it.<br />
Personally I find Mac a lot less user friendly. I was brought up on PCs I know my way around them, how to fix them when mildly to slightly upset/not working. Macs freak me out a little, &#8216;unexpectedly quit&#8217; does ring so true when its happening every five minutes when you&#8217;re trying to finish a project!<br />
Has anyone here had a look at some of the STUNNING Alienware PCs out there? *Drool*<br />
As regards reliability my PC has won hands down over and over again against Macs I&#8217;ve dealt with, but in Ireland Mac support isn&#8217;t great and once something goes wrong and you&#8217;re out of warranty, you have a very uncluttered paperweight!</p>
<p>Its definitely down to the user as regards the general neatness of any tech set up! The machie is very rarely at fault, and more times than no its how well the user knows their machine and how to get the very best out of it anyway with the least amount of cables dangling out of the back (and cables in the right slots&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Click Monkey</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-25448</link>
		<dc:creator>Click Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacki Hollywood Brown @ 12/22/2007 hit the nail on the head.

I work Windows support for a large university.  A few years ago, when several offices were moved across town, we had to move over 100 PCs -- with the towers, monitors, speakers, sub-woofer boxes, and all the cables that go with that.

Having owned an iMac at the time, I tried to convince my boss that we should switch the desktops to some kind of all-in-one device, whether it be an iMac running Windows, a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gateway.com/programs/one/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gateway One&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_one&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dell One&lt;/a&gt;, etc.

For some strange reason, he -- and many of my co-workers -- are opposed to the idea.  The logistics of an all-in-one desktop computer are just so much simpler, that I think that any corporate IT department that still uses towers must be run by myopic fools (including my own).

Also, I used to do computer support for people at home.  I never ceased to be amazed -- and frustrated -- at the type of furniture that had so many side and back panels that (1)  I couldn&#039;t reach components under the desk, (2) required six to ten feet to run a two foot cable, and (3) often left no slack in said cables to work with.  Moving computers even a few inches under those desks was often 10 times more difficult than it should have been.

Not to mention the amount of dust and lint that components on the floor -- including the CPU tower -- collect.

The all-in-ones aren&#039;t cheap.  But if cost isn&#039;t a factor, the only reason not to get an all-in-one is if you&#039;re the type of person who enjoys periodically upgrading the components in your computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacki Hollywood Brown @ 12/22/2007 hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>I work Windows support for a large university.  A few years ago, when several offices were moved across town, we had to move over 100 PCs &#8212; with the towers, monitors, speakers, sub-woofer boxes, and all the cables that go with that.</p>
<p>Having owned an iMac at the time, I tried to convince my boss that we should switch the desktops to some kind of all-in-one device, whether it be an iMac running Windows, a <a href="http://www.gateway.com/programs/one/index.php" rel="nofollow">Gateway One</a>, <a href="http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsdt_one" rel="nofollow">Dell One</a>, etc.</p>
<p>For some strange reason, he &#8212; and many of my co-workers &#8212; are opposed to the idea.  The logistics of an all-in-one desktop computer are just so much simpler, that I think that any corporate IT department that still uses towers must be run by myopic fools (including my own).</p>
<p>Also, I used to do computer support for people at home.  I never ceased to be amazed &#8212; and frustrated &#8212; at the type of furniture that had so many side and back panels that (1)  I couldn&#8217;t reach components under the desk, (2) required six to ten feet to run a two foot cable, and (3) often left no slack in said cables to work with.  Moving computers even a few inches under those desks was often 10 times more difficult than it should have been.</p>
<p>Not to mention the amount of dust and lint that components on the floor &#8212; including the CPU tower &#8212; collect.</p>
<p>The all-in-ones aren&#8217;t cheap.  But if cost isn&#8217;t a factor, the only reason not to get an all-in-one is if you&#8217;re the type of person who enjoys periodically upgrading the components in your computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my intel-based Macbook because it can run both Windows and OSX and I could get rid of my behemoth PC desktop system. I can bring documents home from work if necessary, run Windows software.

But I find it&#039;s not necessary most of the time, because I can use OpenOffice to work on PC documents anyway, so I rarely fire up the Windows desktop.  I just like working on the Mac when I&#039;m at home, and no virus worries either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my intel-based Macbook because it can run both Windows and OSX and I could get rid of my behemoth PC desktop system. I can bring documents home from work if necessary, run Windows software.</p>
<p>But I find it&#8217;s not necessary most of the time, because I can use OpenOffice to work on PC documents anyway, so I rarely fire up the Windows desktop.  I just like working on the Mac when I&#8217;m at home, and no virus worries either.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-7885</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a Mac ( iMac ) user for several years now and have gradually encouraged friend and relatives to make the switch as well. I am now spoilt by the lack of cable spaghetti that I used to have to endure as a PC user, and when I recently had to help an uncle setup a new Vista PC complete with scanner, printer, speakers, external microphone, external web cam, seperate PC and monitor I was horrified by the mess of cable that he was left with ! 

In comparison when I setup my sisters new iMac a few days before I took it out of the box, plugged in the keyboard and mains lead and she was away !

As I often say &quot;Once you go Mac there is no going back !&quot;

CHeers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a Mac ( iMac ) user for several years now and have gradually encouraged friend and relatives to make the switch as well. I am now spoilt by the lack of cable spaghetti that I used to have to endure as a PC user, and when I recently had to help an uncle setup a new Vista PC complete with scanner, printer, speakers, external microphone, external web cam, seperate PC and monitor I was horrified by the mess of cable that he was left with ! </p>
<p>In comparison when I setup my sisters new iMac a few days before I took it out of the box, plugged in the keyboard and mains lead and she was away !</p>
<p>As I often say &#8220;Once you go Mac there is no going back !&#8221;</p>
<p>CHeers</p>
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		<title>By: coyotebear</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6829</link>
		<dc:creator>coyotebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the Mac vs PC discussion with regards to Unclutter thus far, I simply think that the higher incidence of workspace pictures that have Macs in them is because sharing Mac setups (as well as screenshots) was already a part of the user culture.

I do not think that uncluttering is in any way a Mac thing -- if you pop by MacNN Forums and look at pictures of people&#039;s setups, you&#039;ll see that tidy workspaces are a rarity.

That there are more pictures containing Macs is just a self-selection bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the Mac vs PC discussion with regards to Unclutter thus far, I simply think that the higher incidence of workspace pictures that have Macs in them is because sharing Mac setups (as well as screenshots) was already a part of the user culture.</p>
<p>I do not think that uncluttering is in any way a Mac thing &#8212; if you pop by MacNN Forums and look at pictures of people&#8217;s setups, you&#8217;ll see that tidy workspaces are a rarity.</p>
<p>That there are more pictures containing Macs is just a self-selection bias.</p>
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		<title>By: consumer_q</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6596</link>
		<dc:creator>consumer_q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WIN machines are a unitasker; I do not need a malware-only machine.
I kid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WIN machines are a unitasker; I do not need a malware-only machine.<br />
I kid!</p>
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		<title>By: nimbus</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6548</link>
		<dc:creator>nimbus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Rashid have never heard of the Xbox 360 from Microsoft. That thing is STILL breaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Rashid have never heard of the Xbox 360 from Microsoft. That thing is STILL breaking.</p>
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		<title>By: TomL</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6433</link>
		<dc:creator>TomL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rashid states:

&quot;oh and, macs have some of the highest hardware failure rates.&quot;

This is the first time I&#039;ve heard this. What&#039;s your source? Annual surveys of customer satisfaction have recently put Apple at the top of the heap.

I&#039;ve owned Apple computers since 1982 and had one hardware failure around 1994 when the fan on the power supply went out. The local Apple dealer replaced it under warranty in less than a day with a smile. That&#039;s one hardware failure in 25 years of continuous usage practicing law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rashid states:</p>
<p>&#8220;oh and, macs have some of the highest hardware failure rates.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the first time I&#8217;ve heard this. What&#8217;s your source? Annual surveys of customer satisfaction have recently put Apple at the top of the heap.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve owned Apple computers since 1982 and had one hardware failure around 1994 when the fan on the power supply went out. The local Apple dealer replaced it under warranty in less than a day with a smile. That&#8217;s one hardware failure in 25 years of continuous usage practicing law.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been a PC girl my entire life. Last year I got a job at a place that used Apple exclusively. I hated it. I also hated how my PC always had problems that required new software, better virus protection or needing this or that...

Once I got more accustomed to using Mac, it is much more intuitive in the interface. I love design, clean lines and simplicity. That is why I love the MacBook that I bought. The attention to design is noticed from the moment you open the box. The styrofoam that it was packaged in was like a work of art. No endless books &amp; leaflets from third-party software vendors or cables out the wazoo! I can take it anywhere because it is light and has everything that I need. 

I have always been neat &amp; organized to a fault. I was the kid who declined an afternoon of play outside with the neighbors so I could organize the pantry. To me, my MacBook fits that lifestyle of organization that I have. It may not be for everyone but neither is organizing your spices alphabetically! Call me trendy... whatever. 

The one glaring downside, COST. While I consider myself to also be thrifty and NEVER buy anything that isn&#039;t on sale... I will pick quality over quantity any day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been a PC girl my entire life. Last year I got a job at a place that used Apple exclusively. I hated it. I also hated how my PC always had problems that required new software, better virus protection or needing this or that&#8230;</p>
<p>Once I got more accustomed to using Mac, it is much more intuitive in the interface. I love design, clean lines and simplicity. That is why I love the MacBook that I bought. The attention to design is noticed from the moment you open the box. The styrofoam that it was packaged in was like a work of art. No endless books &amp; leaflets from third-party software vendors or cables out the wazoo! I can take it anywhere because it is light and has everything that I need. </p>
<p>I have always been neat &amp; organized to a fault. I was the kid who declined an afternoon of play outside with the neighbors so I could organize the pantry. To me, my MacBook fits that lifestyle of organization that I have. It may not be for everyone but neither is organizing your spices alphabetically! Call me trendy&#8230; whatever. </p>
<p>The one glaring downside, COST. While I consider myself to also be thrifty and NEVER buy anything that isn&#8217;t on sale&#8230; I will pick quality over quantity any day!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few reasons I believe Macs are generally less cluttered than Windows PCs:

1) Better tools. Macs have, by default, very easy to use &quot;smart folders&quot; that allow for some amazing de-cluttering techniques. There are even better add-on programs like Hazel for fully automating your workflow, and Quicksilver for launching any application (or even a single document) very quickly with only a few keystrokes. No need to have application icons cluttering up your desktop (and with Quicksilver, no need for even the Dock.)

2) Packages. In Windows, when you install a program, you usually get a folder, with a whole bunch of sub-folders, and a plethora of files that you have no idea what they are or what the do. The one important file (the .exe) is in there somewhere...On a Mac, all those necessary files and folders are tidied up into a package, so each application &quot;appears&quot; to be just a single tidy icon.

3) Workflow. This actually ties very closely to #1 above, and I guarantee there will be plenty of Windows users who will disagree, but this is from quite a bit of personal (anecdotal) evidence: Mac users tend to work more efficiently and have more clearly defined workflows. I say this as a long time Windows users (and DOS before that) who&#039;s been a hybrid (both OS&#039;s) user for many years, and made the switch permanently (except for firing up Windows at work to change some permissions in Active Directory or to check a web app in IE/Win) to Mac OS a year and a half ago. I&#039;ve noticed that pretty much *all* of my Mac using friends have workflows, while very few of my Windows friends do...Look at the laptop (or desktop) of any of my Windows using friends, and you&#039;ll see a desktop *full* of documents, folders, application shortcuts, etc. with little to no organization whatsoever.

Now, for the poster who said this: &quot;Maybe a bit too much so though (come on, 1 button mouse?).&quot; C&#039;mon...Macs haven&#039;t shipped with a 1 button mouse for a long time. All Mac desktops ship with the Mighty Mouse, which is a multi button mouse (4). And the notebooks have right-click enabled by default (2 fingers on the trackpad + click the button = right-click.) Try to keep up there, champ...Your arguments are old and tired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few reasons I believe Macs are generally less cluttered than Windows PCs:</p>
<p>1) Better tools. Macs have, by default, very easy to use &#8220;smart folders&#8221; that allow for some amazing de-cluttering techniques. There are even better add-on programs like Hazel for fully automating your workflow, and Quicksilver for launching any application (or even a single document) very quickly with only a few keystrokes. No need to have application icons cluttering up your desktop (and with Quicksilver, no need for even the Dock.)</p>
<p>2) Packages. In Windows, when you install a program, you usually get a folder, with a whole bunch of sub-folders, and a plethora of files that you have no idea what they are or what the do. The one important file (the .exe) is in there somewhere&#8230;On a Mac, all those necessary files and folders are tidied up into a package, so each application &#8220;appears&#8221; to be just a single tidy icon.</p>
<p>3) Workflow. This actually ties very closely to #1 above, and I guarantee there will be plenty of Windows users who will disagree, but this is from quite a bit of personal (anecdotal) evidence: Mac users tend to work more efficiently and have more clearly defined workflows. I say this as a long time Windows users (and DOS before that) who&#8217;s been a hybrid (both OS&#8217;s) user for many years, and made the switch permanently (except for firing up Windows at work to change some permissions in Active Directory or to check a web app in IE/Win) to Mac OS a year and a half ago. I&#8217;ve noticed that pretty much *all* of my Mac using friends have workflows, while very few of my Windows friends do&#8230;Look at the laptop (or desktop) of any of my Windows using friends, and you&#8217;ll see a desktop *full* of documents, folders, application shortcuts, etc. with little to no organization whatsoever.</p>
<p>Now, for the poster who said this: &#8220;Maybe a bit too much so though (come on, 1 button mouse?).&#8221; C&#8217;mon&#8230;Macs haven&#8217;t shipped with a 1 button mouse for a long time. All Mac desktops ship with the Mighty Mouse, which is a multi button mouse (4). And the notebooks have right-click enabled by default (2 fingers on the trackpad + click the button = right-click.) Try to keep up there, champ&#8230;Your arguments are old and tired.</p>
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		<title>By: dkong</title>
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		<dc:creator>dkong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that macs just have less crap. 
No tower= HELL of a lot less cables.
Simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that macs just have less crap.<br />
No tower= HELL of a lot less cables.<br />
Simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 08:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the lean towards macs?
Its a long standing &quot;trendy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the lean towards macs?<br />
Its a long standing &#8220;trendy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aegir</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6313</link>
		<dc:creator>Aegir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use both - the Windows PC at work, the iMac at home. I&#039;m just to them in those situations, I think if they were reversed I&#039;d be lost (though I&#039;d like a Mac at work...)

Mind, since the PC at work is networked, there aren&#039;t any files stored locally. The only things on it are all the applications, and I must say Windows is pretty crap at how it stores and maintains applications. All those files splattered all over the place, with no user control! It&#039;s just asking for trouble.

As for the general &#039;being uncluttered&#039; argument, one of the biggest selling points to my parents of the iMac was, as my Dad put it, &quot;None of those silly litle boxes all over the place with the wires everywhere&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use both &#8211; the Windows PC at work, the iMac at home. I&#8217;m just to them in those situations, I think if they were reversed I&#8217;d be lost (though I&#8217;d like a Mac at work&#8230;)</p>
<p>Mind, since the PC at work is networked, there aren&#8217;t any files stored locally. The only things on it are all the applications, and I must say Windows is pretty crap at how it stores and maintains applications. All those files splattered all over the place, with no user control! It&#8217;s just asking for trouble.</p>
<p>As for the general &#8216;being uncluttered&#8217; argument, one of the biggest selling points to my parents of the iMac was, as my Dad put it, &#8220;None of those silly litle boxes all over the place with the wires everywhere&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6311</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bamboozler has this exactly right.  There&#039;s no comparison between a Mac out of the box and a Dell or HP out of the box - I&#039;m a PC person and I&#039;d still take the Mac in that situation.  But when you pick your own hardware, put the parts together yourself, and install a retail copy of Windows, it&#039;s something completely different.

In response to Becca a few posts up, there&#039;s no difference between keeping a PC organized and keeping a Mac organized.  You pick a place to store your files, and you put them all there.  Don&#039;t let yourself throw something on the desktop just because that was the default location - put in the slight extra effort and the clutter will never happen in the first place.

I&#039;ve used Macs quite a bit and still prefer Windows.  Yeah, OSX has a nice shiny interface and makes many things very easy to do.  But I don&#039;t want a nice shiny interface - I don&#039;t even want to notice my interface.  It&#039;s something that needs to be there, but it ought to stay out of my way and let me get on with things, not keep jumping up and telling me how pretty it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bamboozler has this exactly right.  There&#8217;s no comparison between a Mac out of the box and a Dell or HP out of the box &#8211; I&#8217;m a PC person and I&#8217;d still take the Mac in that situation.  But when you pick your own hardware, put the parts together yourself, and install a retail copy of Windows, it&#8217;s something completely different.</p>
<p>In response to Becca a few posts up, there&#8217;s no difference between keeping a PC organized and keeping a Mac organized.  You pick a place to store your files, and you put them all there.  Don&#8217;t let yourself throw something on the desktop just because that was the default location &#8211; put in the slight extra effort and the clutter will never happen in the first place.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used Macs quite a bit and still prefer Windows.  Yeah, OSX has a nice shiny interface and makes many things very easy to do.  But I don&#8217;t want a nice shiny interface &#8211; I don&#8217;t even want to notice my interface.  It&#8217;s something that needs to be there, but it ought to stay out of my way and let me get on with things, not keep jumping up and telling me how pretty it is.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6309</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own both a mac and a pc and have to say I like both equally much. They&#039;re both great (if u dont include vista anyway) and I think it&#039;s just a matter of personal preference. Not a matter of &quot;being better&quot;. (especially if u also include linux in the mix)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own both a mac and a pc and have to say I like both equally much. They&#8217;re both great (if u dont include vista anyway) and I think it&#8217;s just a matter of personal preference. Not a matter of &#8220;being better&#8221;. (especially if u also include linux in the mix)</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6308</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I agree! I was so tired of my cluttered PC where files would be buried in folders and lost with no hope of retrieval. One of the primary reasons I got a Mac when I replaced my computer was because Macs always felt so clean to me, so inherently clutter-free. I love the finder window, and how folders can be docked on the side. When saving files, I can easily navigate to these folders. I&#039;m also more likely to stay organized because 1) with a Mac, it&#039;s easy and 2) I don&#039;t want to clutter it up! My Mac is beautiful! I can&#039;t even express how great it is, being able to see my desktop!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I agree! I was so tired of my cluttered PC where files would be buried in folders and lost with no hope of retrieval. One of the primary reasons I got a Mac when I replaced my computer was because Macs always felt so clean to me, so inherently clutter-free. I love the finder window, and how folders can be docked on the side. When saving files, I can easily navigate to these folders. I&#8217;m also more likely to stay organized because 1) with a Mac, it&#8217;s easy and 2) I don&#8217;t want to clutter it up! My Mac is beautiful! I can&#8217;t even express how great it is, being able to see my desktop!</p>
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		<title>By: Minnie</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6301</link>
		<dc:creator>Minnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love my iBook.  Totally uncluttered, easy to use, and reliable.  Mac is the best IMO.  I like their way of doing things, always have.
Windows seems to make things overly complicated and somewhat redundant. 
I&#039;ve never understood the attraction to windows, especially back when it was so user UNfriendly.  But these days they seem to have moved more toward looking like a Mac, so maybe people are finding them just as easy to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my iBook.  Totally uncluttered, easy to use, and reliable.  Mac is the best IMO.  I like their way of doing things, always have.<br />
Windows seems to make things overly complicated and somewhat redundant.<br />
I&#8217;ve never understood the attraction to windows, especially back when it was so user UNfriendly.  But these days they seem to have moved more toward looking like a Mac, so maybe people are finding them just as easy to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Bamboozler</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/12/21/are-macs-more-uncluttered-than-pcs/comment-page-1/#comment-6293</link>
		<dc:creator>Bamboozler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the big difference that people don&#039;t realize is that almost no one is starting with a clean Windows install. If you buy a computer with Windows preinstalled you&#039;re also getting tons of add-on junk software. Try installing just Windows from a retail box onto a blank harddrive, then see if you think it&#039;s cluttered. It&#039;s like a religious awakening for most people the first time they see how windows is supposed to be, free of all the junkware companies like Dell and HP put in. 
You can have a fast, clean, stable, good looking machine AND have unlimited hardware options to get exactly what you need and not more than you want. Do you have that option with an Apple? No. I&#039;m do a lot of photo work and a good amount of gaming. I build my own machines and run Windows, Mac is not even an option, it&#039;s what people pick when they don&#039;t want to deal with options.
Get exactly what you need and not more than you want. That&#039;s uncluttered and smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the big difference that people don&#8217;t realize is that almost no one is starting with a clean Windows install. If you buy a computer with Windows preinstalled you&#8217;re also getting tons of add-on junk software. Try installing just Windows from a retail box onto a blank harddrive, then see if you think it&#8217;s cluttered. It&#8217;s like a religious awakening for most people the first time they see how windows is supposed to be, free of all the junkware companies like Dell and HP put in.<br />
You can have a fast, clean, stable, good looking machine AND have unlimited hardware options to get exactly what you need and not more than you want. Do you have that option with an Apple? No. I&#8217;m do a lot of photo work and a good amount of gaming. I build my own machines and run Windows, Mac is not even an option, it&#8217;s what people pick when they don&#8217;t want to deal with options.<br />
Get exactly what you need and not more than you want. That&#8217;s uncluttered and smart.</p>
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