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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up having to be tidy just to avoid my mother&#039;s wrath. I married a very loving man, who grew up in sloth which was blamed on his mother&#039;s mental illness. I&#039;ve learned to be flexible about tidiness, cleanliness, clutter,etc. Yet I find I just can&#039;t do it anymore. I don&#039;t want to clean up after people who don&#039;t clean, but seem to go out of their way to make excessive messes. So we live in a pretty filthy, cluttered home which used to bother me to the point of angry resentment. Now I keep quiet and do my own thing. And occasionally they complain about the dirt, etc and what a slob I am. Haha! They all went a way for a week and I had the flu so I stayed home. Even with the flu I managed to clean the house up enough to feel more comfortable in and it stayed that way. When they are around anything I do is immediately undone. An empty space is a convenient space to toss their stuff, rather then putting it away somewhere other then out in plain site. I have 2-3 years before the youngest is out of high school. I am hoping I survive this time. Living in clutter and mess affects me both physically and mentally. I would love to live on my own with just my pets. They are much easier to care for. The pets don&#039;t try to place things on my bureau, like my hubby does, because there is an empty space and it would be much easier for him to find something of his on my bureau because it isn&#039;t as cluttered as his bureau is. Yeah right. This was the one place I have been able to keep him from placing things of his. If I didn&#039;t, my bureau would be as cluttered as every other place in the house. I feel like I have not quite one half of the room to call my own and he controls the rest of our bedroom as well as the rest of the house. But of course it is all messy because I don&#039;t clean up or pick up after him. I do the bare minimum because there is no need to make the messes he makes. Plus if I clean up after him (toss thigs in the garbage) then he is mad because he can&#039;t find things as if there is a place for most of the junk he keeps. This is what makes me feel crazy, uncomfortable, unfocused and aimless. This is not me, it is my reaction to the circumstances I live in. I&#039;ve tried talking about it and all I face is their resentment that I expect more or better from them. They don&#039;t have time, yet they can make excessive messes? They don&#039;t complete chores. Sure you went to the dump, but how about completing the chore by returning the recycling bins to the basement. I do when I go to the dump. I complete the chore and not leave the bins near the front door for him to put away. I could go on and on. Basically I try not thing about it and try to survive moment to moment. But it all affects me negatively which affects &quot;us&quot; negatively, yet it&#039;s all my fault for not being their shadow walker who cleans up as they mess.  C&#039;est la vie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up having to be tidy just to avoid my mother&#8217;s wrath. I married a very loving man, who grew up in sloth which was blamed on his mother&#8217;s mental illness. I&#8217;ve learned to be flexible about tidiness, cleanliness, clutter,etc. Yet I find I just can&#8217;t do it anymore. I don&#8217;t want to clean up after people who don&#8217;t clean, but seem to go out of their way to make excessive messes. So we live in a pretty filthy, cluttered home which used to bother me to the point of angry resentment. Now I keep quiet and do my own thing. And occasionally they complain about the dirt, etc and what a slob I am. Haha! They all went a way for a week and I had the flu so I stayed home. Even with the flu I managed to clean the house up enough to feel more comfortable in and it stayed that way. When they are around anything I do is immediately undone. An empty space is a convenient space to toss their stuff, rather then putting it away somewhere other then out in plain site. I have 2-3 years before the youngest is out of high school. I am hoping I survive this time. Living in clutter and mess affects me both physically and mentally. I would love to live on my own with just my pets. They are much easier to care for. The pets don&#8217;t try to place things on my bureau, like my hubby does, because there is an empty space and it would be much easier for him to find something of his on my bureau because it isn&#8217;t as cluttered as his bureau is. Yeah right. This was the one place I have been able to keep him from placing things of his. If I didn&#8217;t, my bureau would be as cluttered as every other place in the house. I feel like I have not quite one half of the room to call my own and he controls the rest of our bedroom as well as the rest of the house. But of course it is all messy because I don&#8217;t clean up or pick up after him. I do the bare minimum because there is no need to make the messes he makes. Plus if I clean up after him (toss thigs in the garbage) then he is mad because he can&#8217;t find things as if there is a place for most of the junk he keeps. This is what makes me feel crazy, uncomfortable, unfocused and aimless. This is not me, it is my reaction to the circumstances I live in. I&#8217;ve tried talking about it and all I face is their resentment that I expect more or better from them. They don&#8217;t have time, yet they can make excessive messes? They don&#8217;t complete chores. Sure you went to the dump, but how about completing the chore by returning the recycling bins to the basement. I do when I go to the dump. I complete the chore and not leave the bins near the front door for him to put away. I could go on and on. Basically I try not thing about it and try to survive moment to moment. But it all affects me negatively which affects &#8220;us&#8221; negatively, yet it&#8217;s all my fault for not being their shadow walker who cleans up as they mess.  C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie G</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-44225</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad I ran across this blog!  I have been feeling anxious and depressed since I moved into a &quot;big&quot; house with my significant other who is a collector.  Our big house isn&#039;t feeling so big anymore.  In fact it&#039;s getting rather difficult to find a place for him to put his newer additions to the collections.  I am a neat freak and I get anxious when I come home and the table is covered with tools, hats, papers, etc.  For awhile I was putting masking tape on the tablecloth in the form of a square where I asked him to not put his things so I would have a place to eat.  Of course he would put things there to irritate me.  Since we&#039;ve moved in here, I have inherited my mother&#039;s collection, and my dad&#039;s things because he&#039;s been in a nursing home for the past couple of years which is depressing enough.  Five years later I still can&#039;t bring myself to go through mom&#039;s papers, or dad&#039;s belongings, so now I also have clutter and no time to get to it.  I work full time, and visit dad often as I can, usually two or three times a week. He is about 40 miles away and my job is not too understanding about taking time off to get things done. Not to mention the clutter of medicare and insurance paperwork an ill family member will generate.  At least now I understand why I am feeling so anxious when I&#039;m in the house and am glad to go to work where I am to keep my work area neat and clean. My supervisors have commented on how nice everything looks when I work or they can tell by the looks of things when they get there in the morning if I didn&#039;t work that night. Thanks to everyone who told their story so I can understand why I&#039;m unhappy, and can work on changing things. Maybe he and I won&#039;t have to go our seperate ways afterall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad I ran across this blog!  I have been feeling anxious and depressed since I moved into a &#8220;big&#8221; house with my significant other who is a collector.  Our big house isn&#8217;t feeling so big anymore.  In fact it&#8217;s getting rather difficult to find a place for him to put his newer additions to the collections.  I am a neat freak and I get anxious when I come home and the table is covered with tools, hats, papers, etc.  For awhile I was putting masking tape on the tablecloth in the form of a square where I asked him to not put his things so I would have a place to eat.  Of course he would put things there to irritate me.  Since we&#8217;ve moved in here, I have inherited my mother&#8217;s collection, and my dad&#8217;s things because he&#8217;s been in a nursing home for the past couple of years which is depressing enough.  Five years later I still can&#8217;t bring myself to go through mom&#8217;s papers, or dad&#8217;s belongings, so now I also have clutter and no time to get to it.  I work full time, and visit dad often as I can, usually two or three times a week. He is about 40 miles away and my job is not too understanding about taking time off to get things done. Not to mention the clutter of medicare and insurance paperwork an ill family member will generate.  At least now I understand why I am feeling so anxious when I&#8217;m in the house and am glad to go to work where I am to keep my work area neat and clean. My supervisors have commented on how nice everything looks when I work or they can tell by the looks of things when they get there in the morning if I didn&#8217;t work that night. Thanks to everyone who told their story so I can understand why I&#8217;m unhappy, and can work on changing things. Maybe he and I won&#8217;t have to go our seperate ways afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: Carly</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-42747</link>
		<dc:creator>Carly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was depressed my room was a complete mess, but as I finally got up the motivation to clean it - it made me feel better.  It certainly didn&#039;t cure my depression, but having control over something (my environment) helped when I didn&#039;t have control over my emotions.  Now its important to me to have everything in my room at home and my dorm room to be neat, organized, and clean.  A tidy home really does mean a tidy mind for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was depressed my room was a complete mess, but as I finally got up the motivation to clean it &#8211; it made me feel better.  It certainly didn&#8217;t cure my depression, but having control over something (my environment) helped when I didn&#8217;t have control over my emotions.  Now its important to me to have everything in my room at home and my dorm room to be neat, organized, and clean.  A tidy home really does mean a tidy mind for me.</p>
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		<title>By: stefanie</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-39821</link>
		<dc:creator>stefanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clutter and depression. Yes, I can see that.
Clutter may also be connected to people who want to keep others out of their space.
But, for me, clutter means that I&#039;m feeling sad, disappointed, worried.
Life can be depressing. I know that mine is and has been for quite a while. Bullies, people with their own agenda, everyday rudeness, etc.
It&#039;s a struggle every day lately, and popping an anti-depressant (with all their unpleasant side effects) does not make the problems go away, does not scare away the bullies, etc.
I&#039;ve been trying to de-clutter for 6 weeks now. Slow progress.
I know that things could be worse in my life, but each person has their own mountain to climb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clutter and depression. Yes, I can see that.<br />
Clutter may also be connected to people who want to keep others out of their space.<br />
But, for me, clutter means that I&#8217;m feeling sad, disappointed, worried.<br />
Life can be depressing. I know that mine is and has been for quite a while. Bullies, people with their own agenda, everyday rudeness, etc.<br />
It&#8217;s a struggle every day lately, and popping an anti-depressant (with all their unpleasant side effects) does not make the problems go away, does not scare away the bullies, etc.<br />
I&#8217;ve been trying to de-clutter for 6 weeks now. Slow progress.<br />
I know that things could be worse in my life, but each person has their own mountain to climb.</p>
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		<title>By: tricia csaszar</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-33950</link>
		<dc:creator>tricia csaszar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree . my depression has gradually gotten worse over the past 2 weeks  were  I  dont feel like  cleaning or whatever I need to do  all I do is cry , I dont feel like  Im living Im just existing and dont enjoy life at all  and think of endingf things but I am afraid to in reality  I also try and force myself to snap out of it , try to do what I need to do but I still cry through it but then get a headache from crying so hard that I cant go on to do what I need to do but Im also ashamed of myself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree . my depression has gradually gotten worse over the past 2 weeks  were  I  dont feel like  cleaning or whatever I need to do  all I do is cry , I dont feel like  Im living Im just existing and dont enjoy life at all  and think of endingf things but I am afraid to in reality  I also try and force myself to snap out of it , try to do what I need to do but I still cry through it but then get a headache from crying so hard that I cant go on to do what I need to do but Im also ashamed of myself</p>
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		<title>By: My Perspective</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-31437</link>
		<dc:creator>My Perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I appreciate all of the valid points that have been made, it doesn&#039;t sound like some of you truly understand how severe chronic depression can affect a person&#039;s life.


Some of you might call it &quot;making excuses&quot;.  I&#039;m being realistic.  


Of course I&#039;m unhappy.  Of course my surroundings are uncomfortably untidy.  I hate living in a cluttered environment.  However, there is very little that I can do about it.

It isn&#039;t because I don&#039;t want to.  It is because on most days I am extremely depressed and unhappy.  I often feel unable to be productive.


It is hurtful when more organized individuals adopt a judgmental attitude.  If you are living with somebody who tends to clutter, the best way to handle it is by showing compassion.  The person obviously has an emotional or psychological disorder.  You have the right to live in an organized environment, they have the right to be understood and helped.

When you label people with this problem as &quot;pigs&quot;, or insinuate that they are lazy slobs, what do you expect?  Not everyone can simply hop up and start cleaning like there&#039;s no tomorrow.  I feel like I have absolutely NO control in my life and it shows in my surroundings.  

Shaming the person and acting holier-than-thou will not give them the incentive to become more organized.  Instead, it creates additional tension in the environment.  My stepfather has called me &quot;pig&quot; and other derogatory names more than I care to remember.  My mother would shout and scream at me.


I&#039;ve always done the dishes and my share of chores no matter where I&#039;ve lived, but my bedroom at my stepfather&#039;s home is another matter.  I&#039;m engaged to an older man who is a type-A individual...he isn&#039;t a clean freak, but he has the &quot;things should ALWAYS be in their place&quot; mindset.  


It is important not to lose sight of the fact that most people who clutter probably suffer from some type of depression.  We don&#039;t clutter because we&#039;re trying to annoy you or drive you nuts.  Some of us need serious therapy.


Frustrated Believer, I don&#039;t know what your situation is but I feel for you.  It sounds like your husband is being a bit selfish and that isn&#039;t fair.  Both of you should be sharing the chores at home. He should respect the fact that housework is almost therapeutic to you.  He shouldn&#039;t make you feel bad. 

However, his belligerent attitude might come from an attitude on your part that you&#039;re unaware of.

To clarify, I know that I sometimes become a bit defensive when certain people bark orders at me to clean my room or organize things.  I&#039;m 25 years old.  I realize that my clutter bothers some people, but that is why I have my own little space.  They don&#039;t have to look at it.  It all depends on how you approach the situation.  I&#039;m not saying that you belittle your husband...it certainly doesn&#039;t sound that way.  It sounds like he is being inconsiderate of your feelings.  


All I&#039;m saying is that when we live with other people who clutter for whatever reason, a little compassion goes a long way.  My tendency to clutter started because of my traumatic childhood and teenage years.  That was my way of dealing with life.  Unfortunately, it worsened over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I appreciate all of the valid points that have been made, it doesn&#8217;t sound like some of you truly understand how severe chronic depression can affect a person&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>Some of you might call it &#8220;making excuses&#8221;.  I&#8217;m being realistic.  </p>
<p>Of course I&#8217;m unhappy.  Of course my surroundings are uncomfortably untidy.  I hate living in a cluttered environment.  However, there is very little that I can do about it.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t because I don&#8217;t want to.  It is because on most days I am extremely depressed and unhappy.  I often feel unable to be productive.</p>
<p>It is hurtful when more organized individuals adopt a judgmental attitude.  If you are living with somebody who tends to clutter, the best way to handle it is by showing compassion.  The person obviously has an emotional or psychological disorder.  You have the right to live in an organized environment, they have the right to be understood and helped.</p>
<p>When you label people with this problem as &#8220;pigs&#8221;, or insinuate that they are lazy slobs, what do you expect?  Not everyone can simply hop up and start cleaning like there&#8217;s no tomorrow.  I feel like I have absolutely NO control in my life and it shows in my surroundings.  </p>
<p>Shaming the person and acting holier-than-thou will not give them the incentive to become more organized.  Instead, it creates additional tension in the environment.  My stepfather has called me &#8220;pig&#8221; and other derogatory names more than I care to remember.  My mother would shout and scream at me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always done the dishes and my share of chores no matter where I&#8217;ve lived, but my bedroom at my stepfather&#8217;s home is another matter.  I&#8217;m engaged to an older man who is a type-A individual&#8230;he isn&#8217;t a clean freak, but he has the &#8220;things should ALWAYS be in their place&#8221; mindset.  </p>
<p>It is important not to lose sight of the fact that most people who clutter probably suffer from some type of depression.  We don&#8217;t clutter because we&#8217;re trying to annoy you or drive you nuts.  Some of us need serious therapy.</p>
<p>Frustrated Believer, I don&#8217;t know what your situation is but I feel for you.  It sounds like your husband is being a bit selfish and that isn&#8217;t fair.  Both of you should be sharing the chores at home. He should respect the fact that housework is almost therapeutic to you.  He shouldn&#8217;t make you feel bad. </p>
<p>However, his belligerent attitude might come from an attitude on your part that you&#8217;re unaware of.</p>
<p>To clarify, I know that I sometimes become a bit defensive when certain people bark orders at me to clean my room or organize things.  I&#8217;m 25 years old.  I realize that my clutter bothers some people, but that is why I have my own little space.  They don&#8217;t have to look at it.  It all depends on how you approach the situation.  I&#8217;m not saying that you belittle your husband&#8230;it certainly doesn&#8217;t sound that way.  It sounds like he is being inconsiderate of your feelings.  </p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that when we live with other people who clutter for whatever reason, a little compassion goes a long way.  My tendency to clutter started because of my traumatic childhood and teenage years.  That was my way of dealing with life.  Unfortunately, it worsened over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know where to begin. I want to clean, but I can&#039;t. I start cleaning and become overwhelmed and take a nap so I can escape the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where to begin. I want to clean, but I can&#8217;t. I start cleaning and become overwhelmed and take a nap so I can escape the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Frustrated Believer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frustrated Believer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was so nice to hear this.  I have been living through a very tough couple of years and the only thing that keeep me somewhat sane is if the house is &quot;straight&quot;...not always &quot;clean&quot;.  My husband rolls his eyes and almost becomes beligerant when I start cleaning.  Instead of seeing and awknowledging how it helps me he says he feels the need to avoid me when I am &quot;in that mode&quot;.  I try to do things that keep him &quot;balanced&quot;, however it seems that he won&#039;t pitch in to help me stay sane.  Even if I don&#039;t ask him to help, he somehow makes me feel guilty for doing housework.  We both work although he has more flexible hours than I.  Having a somewhat straight house seems to keep things in perspective and help me keep from falling into a deep depression.  I am glad to hear that I am not alone and there there really is something to be said for making the effort!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was so nice to hear this.  I have been living through a very tough couple of years and the only thing that keeep me somewhat sane is if the house is &#8220;straight&#8221;&#8230;not always &#8220;clean&#8221;.  My husband rolls his eyes and almost becomes beligerant when I start cleaning.  Instead of seeing and awknowledging how it helps me he says he feels the need to avoid me when I am &#8220;in that mode&#8221;.  I try to do things that keep him &#8220;balanced&#8221;, however it seems that he won&#8217;t pitch in to help me stay sane.  Even if I don&#8217;t ask him to help, he somehow makes me feel guilty for doing housework.  We both work although he has more flexible hours than I.  Having a somewhat straight house seems to keep things in perspective and help me keep from falling into a deep depression.  I am glad to hear that I am not alone and there there really is something to be said for making the effort!</p>
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		<title>By: Depressed or Multi-tasker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Depressed or Multi-tasker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have trouble finishing a project, therefore my house is always cluttered with unfinished projects.  I don&#039;t pick up after myself well unless there are other people in the house to consider and even then it&#039;s not a great job.  I always thought I had so many unfinished projects and that my house was so cluttered because I was bored but now I believe it is because I&#039;m depressed most of the time.  Maybe I don&#039;t really know what I want in life and it is reflected in how my house looks.  If my house is in order, I seem to find it to be an opportunity to start more projects.  It feels like I need to fill the empty spaces in my house.  I rarely have a clear path to walk in my house.  Just writing this dowm makes me realize that I need therapy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have trouble finishing a project, therefore my house is always cluttered with unfinished projects.  I don&#8217;t pick up after myself well unless there are other people in the house to consider and even then it&#8217;s not a great job.  I always thought I had so many unfinished projects and that my house was so cluttered because I was bored but now I believe it is because I&#8217;m depressed most of the time.  Maybe I don&#8217;t really know what I want in life and it is reflected in how my house looks.  If my house is in order, I seem to find it to be an opportunity to start more projects.  It feels like I need to fill the empty spaces in my house.  I rarely have a clear path to walk in my house.  Just writing this dowm makes me realize that I need therapy.</p>
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		<title>By: m yoma</title>
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		<dc:creator>m yoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing this post is not in relation to the previous post--The poor person in that situation would likely be best to get out of that situation.I do not wish to shove my untidiness on others.Messy people should live with like minded.Either way we all deserve love messy or neat.The other suggestion to previous post is to split the house in half-you live on one side they on the other because they will never learn to be neat --its in the nature of some to be messy because its all relative.The queen of england may find some of the tidiest to be piggies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing this post is not in relation to the previous post&#8211;The poor person in that situation would likely be best to get out of that situation.I do not wish to shove my untidiness on others.Messy people should live with like minded.Either way we all deserve love messy or neat.The other suggestion to previous post is to split the house in half-you live on one side they on the other because they will never learn to be neat &#8211;its in the nature of some to be messy because its all relative.The queen of england may find some of the tidiest to be piggies.</p>
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		<title>By: m yoma</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-24177</link>
		<dc:creator>m yoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WARNING DISCLAIMER___My opinions on this subject are strong against clean people and may be offensive--I don&#039;t want a war  I just want to bring light to the other side of this issue.Please remember this is only an opinion and I am not inflexible or rigid about my views.these views are based on years of experience.-----------------------------It is my opinion that an untidy home can symbolize or signify internal goings on and vice versa.What concerns me though is that if a person wishes to live in this manner it is often the critiques of the inspecting organizer &quot;freaks&quot; that give me the most feeling of anxiety and grief.I am an artist and proudly hide my mess from others to keep the nosy organizers out of my creative realm and are always relieved to see them leave..I bought a house with an attic just so I could leave my half eaten toast on a plate without some rotter to come and spoil my fun.I quite enjoy doing paintings of my messes and am only ashamed if others see it that have the cleanaholic mentality.I screen people for this trait before they are allowed in my home.So I decided why should I let others see my private mess.Its none of thier business.They are not my mother and its my house not theirs.Masterfull mess creator artist and privately proud.I put my plastic covered couch for guests that fail the screening to sit on since I have neat friends who think I am tidy.Of course there are days I wish i could be like the clean and neat perfectionists of the world but I know that i am just not of that ilk.Guess what they envy my artwork and they could organize the world but couldn&#039;t write a poem without sentence structure.I hate structure.I am not a box.They work and live in boxes and keep everything in boxes---groser than my toast the inhumanity--the clinical sterility of hospital clean.When they walk down the beach they wipe away the footprints left behind.My creativity goes into other more meaningfull things.Einstien was messy.I quit trying to keep up with the neat folk because lawns front lawns I am not interested in.The neat people tend to bully the creative messy folk and imply we are mentally sick because we are not like them.I am human not a robot.Free from the opinions of others no!!!They will always shove thier self rightious perfectionistic views upon you.ACCEPT US FOR WHO WE ARE SO WE CAN ALSO LET YOU SEE US FOR ALL THAT WE CAN BE!!!!!!!THEN WE WOULD HAVE NO REASON FOR GRIEF!!!!!WE WOULD FEEL LOVED THEN MAYBE WE WOULD CLEAN UP ONCE IN A WHILE JUST TO SEE YOU NEAT PEOPLE SMILE&gt;Shame on them for shaming us for who we are and trying to make us like them  BULLIES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WARNING DISCLAIMER___My opinions on this subject are strong against clean people and may be offensive&#8211;I don&#8217;t want a war  I just want to bring light to the other side of this issue.Please remember this is only an opinion and I am not inflexible or rigid about my views.these views are based on years of experience.&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;It is my opinion that an untidy home can symbolize or signify internal goings on and vice versa.What concerns me though is that if a person wishes to live in this manner it is often the critiques of the inspecting organizer &#8220;freaks&#8221; that give me the most feeling of anxiety and grief.I am an artist and proudly hide my mess from others to keep the nosy organizers out of my creative realm and are always relieved to see them leave..I bought a house with an attic just so I could leave my half eaten toast on a plate without some rotter to come and spoil my fun.I quite enjoy doing paintings of my messes and am only ashamed if others see it that have the cleanaholic mentality.I screen people for this trait before they are allowed in my home.So I decided why should I let others see my private mess.Its none of thier business.They are not my mother and its my house not theirs.Masterfull mess creator artist and privately proud.I put my plastic covered couch for guests that fail the screening to sit on since I have neat friends who think I am tidy.Of course there are days I wish i could be like the clean and neat perfectionists of the world but I know that i am just not of that ilk.Guess what they envy my artwork and they could organize the world but couldn&#8217;t write a poem without sentence structure.I hate structure.I am not a box.They work and live in boxes and keep everything in boxes&#8212;groser than my toast the inhumanity&#8211;the clinical sterility of hospital clean.When they walk down the beach they wipe away the footprints left behind.My creativity goes into other more meaningfull things.Einstien was messy.I quit trying to keep up with the neat folk because lawns front lawns I am not interested in.The neat people tend to bully the creative messy folk and imply we are mentally sick because we are not like them.I am human not a robot.Free from the opinions of others no!!!They will always shove thier self rightious perfectionistic views upon you.ACCEPT US FOR WHO WE ARE SO WE CAN ALSO LET YOU SEE US FOR ALL THAT WE CAN BE!!!!!!!THEN WE WOULD HAVE NO REASON FOR GRIEF!!!!!WE WOULD FEEL LOVED THEN MAYBE WE WOULD CLEAN UP ONCE IN A WHILE JUST TO SEE YOU NEAT PEOPLE SMILE&gt;Shame on them for shaming us for who we are and trying to make us like them  BULLIES</p>
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		<title>By: Helly</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-23564</link>
		<dc:creator>Helly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, I moved in with my now-husband 3 years ago into a &quot;Fixer Upper&quot; and have been living in a state of renovations for three years.  I feel like crying everyday, but he does not really understand. I clean an area out - and so it becomes the best place to put the next load of crap because it is the only clear area in the house.  He does not understand that I NEED organization and a clutter free living environment.  I don&#039;t have anyone over because I can&#039;t - there is no where for them to sit....
I feel like crying and do a lot.  I am starting to feel like there is no way out of this mess.  I wish I never moved into this house. It is like living in hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, I moved in with my now-husband 3 years ago into a &#8220;Fixer Upper&#8221; and have been living in a state of renovations for three years.  I feel like crying everyday, but he does not really understand. I clean an area out &#8211; and so it becomes the best place to put the next load of crap because it is the only clear area in the house.  He does not understand that I NEED organization and a clutter free living environment.  I don&#8217;t have anyone over because I can&#8217;t &#8211; there is no where for them to sit&#8230;.<br />
I feel like crying and do a lot.  I am starting to feel like there is no way out of this mess.  I wish I never moved into this house. It is like living in hell.</p>
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		<title>By: another depressed hoarder</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-20779</link>
		<dc:creator>another depressed hoarder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is hard to feel good when your house or apartment looks like a bomb went off, your friends don’t call anymore, you’ve gotten fat and you look like hell.&quot;

Boy ain&#039;t that the truth. When my cluttering became a problem I stopped having friends over because I&#039;m too embarrassed by my mess. Personal neglect becomes a problem for depressed hoarders like myself and then it spreads out into our living space, and then our work space. It&#039;s a nightmare. If you know of a co-worker who kind of dresses sloppy and looks out of it, have sympathy. I wish I were an A-type personality who had my act together 24/7. 

I think there&#039;s a book out there called &quot;Does this clutter make my butt look fat?&quot; The gist being: lose the clutter, lose weight. Is it that simple?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is hard to feel good when your house or apartment looks like a bomb went off, your friends don’t call anymore, you’ve gotten fat and you look like hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Boy ain&#8217;t that the truth. When my cluttering became a problem I stopped having friends over because I&#8217;m too embarrassed by my mess. Personal neglect becomes a problem for depressed hoarders like myself and then it spreads out into our living space, and then our work space. It&#8217;s a nightmare. If you know of a co-worker who kind of dresses sloppy and looks out of it, have sympathy. I wish I were an A-type personality who had my act together 24/7. </p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s a book out there called &#8220;Does this clutter make my butt look fat?&#8221; The gist being: lose the clutter, lose weight. Is it that simple?</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-19779</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depression is an illness of which clutter is often a symptom. It can be difficult for someone who&#039;s truly clinically depressed to even get out of bed in the morning, let alone keep things spic &#039;n&#039; span. 

As the clutter gets worse, it can exacerbate the depression by making the person feel they&#039;re in a deep pit they can&#039;t get out of. Depressed people will also often buy stuff in hopes it will make them feel better. It can turn into a very nasty downward spiral. Professional treatment of the depression is a first step. There are websites where one can do an initial self-diagnosis to see if it&#039;s truly depression and not just unhappiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depression is an illness of which clutter is often a symptom. It can be difficult for someone who&#8217;s truly clinically depressed to even get out of bed in the morning, let alone keep things spic &#8216;n&#8217; span. </p>
<p>As the clutter gets worse, it can exacerbate the depression by making the person feel they&#8217;re in a deep pit they can&#8217;t get out of. Depressed people will also often buy stuff in hopes it will make them feel better. It can turn into a very nasty downward spiral. Professional treatment of the depression is a first step. There are websites where one can do an initial self-diagnosis to see if it&#8217;s truly depression and not just unhappiness.</p>
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		<title>By: John of Indiana</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/09/17/clutter-and-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-19773</link>
		<dc:creator>John of Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is SO true. 
Now that I&#039;m coming out of my most recent bout of Depression (runs on 10-year cycles) I actually told my friend &quot;it looks like a F***in&#039; Garage Sale BOMB went off in there!&quot;. 
So far, I&#039;ve gotten the kitchen and bath shoveled out. The biggest problem is dealing with the BOXES full of &quot;I&#039;ll need TWO of these as soon as I throw out this one I&#039;ve had stashed for 25 years&quot; things...

I had forgotten I have carpet in the bedroom, too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is SO true.<br />
Now that I&#8217;m coming out of my most recent bout of Depression (runs on 10-year cycles) I actually told my friend &#8220;it looks like a F***in&#8217; Garage Sale BOMB went off in there!&#8221;.<br />
So far, I&#8217;ve gotten the kitchen and bath shoveled out. The biggest problem is dealing with the BOXES full of &#8220;I&#8217;ll need TWO of these as soon as I throw out this one I&#8217;ve had stashed for 25 years&#8221; things&#8230;</p>
<p>I had forgotten I have carpet in the bedroom, too&#8230;.</p>
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