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	<title>Comments on: Reader question: Two laptops, one desk</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Wilkerson</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/08/07/reader-question-two-laptops-one-desk/comment-page-1/#comment-2338</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the sake of anyone breathlessly following this thread to its conclusion, I ended up solving my problem by acquiring an additional docking station from the folks at the office who control such things.

The docking station sits on my server rack - entirely out of my way - and now when I&#039;m home I just place my laptop on the docking station (with the lid closed) and use Remote Desktop Connection to access that machine from my mac.  Works well since the laptop&#039;s display resolution is an intolerable 1024x768.

So now my second laptop isn&#039;t on my desk at all and is no longer a source of clutter.  Thanks again to all who offered solutions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the sake of anyone breathlessly following this thread to its conclusion, I ended up solving my problem by acquiring an additional docking station from the folks at the office who control such things.</p>
<p>The docking station sits on my server rack &#8211; entirely out of my way &#8211; and now when I&#8217;m home I just place my laptop on the docking station (with the lid closed) and use Remote Desktop Connection to access that machine from my mac.  Works well since the laptop&#8217;s display resolution is an intolerable 1024&#215;768.</p>
<p>So now my second laptop isn&#8217;t on my desk at all and is no longer a source of clutter.  Thanks again to all who offered solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case your going for the two laptops - one screen, many dell monitors have 4 different video inputs, including VGA and DVI. This way you can connect the PC to the VGA and the mac to the DVI and easily switch between them, without the need of an external video device.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case your going for the two laptops &#8211; one screen, many dell monitors have 4 different video inputs, including VGA and DVI. This way you can connect the PC to the VGA and the mac to the DVI and easily switch between them, without the need of an external video device.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wilkerson</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/08/07/reader-question-two-laptops-one-desk/comment-page-1/#comment-2336</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wilkerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of the advise, folks.  Here are some things I should have specified:

1.  One laptop is a Windows laptop that belongs to the office.  The other is my personal Mac.  I already run Parallels on the Mac, but for legal/liability reasons, I need to keep work stuff on the work machine.

2.  I actually prefer the laptop screen because of it&#039;s tiny footprint.  My desk faces the door and I can&#039;t stand having a big ol&#039; monitor in front of my face blocking my view of the door.  That makes a KVM solution useless (I&#039;m not familiar with Synergy - yet).

3.  When I&#039;m using one laptop, I think I&#039;d like to close the other and have it set aside entirely.  That said, if remoting in from my home machine to my work machine is reasonably performant, then maybe that&#039;s a reasonable solution.

Thanks again to everyone.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of the advise, folks.  Here are some things I should have specified:</p>
<p>1.  One laptop is a Windows laptop that belongs to the office.  The other is my personal Mac.  I already run Parallels on the Mac, but for legal/liability reasons, I need to keep work stuff on the work machine.</p>
<p>2.  I actually prefer the laptop screen because of it&#8217;s tiny footprint.  My desk faces the door and I can&#8217;t stand having a big ol&#8217; monitor in front of my face blocking my view of the door.  That makes a KVM solution useless (I&#8217;m not familiar with Synergy &#8211; yet).</p>
<p>3.  When I&#8217;m using one laptop, I think I&#8217;d like to close the other and have it set aside entirely.  That said, if remoting in from my home machine to my work machine is reasonably performant, then maybe that&#8217;s a reasonable solution.</p>
<p>Thanks again to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could eliminate the Windows device by loading Windows in Parallels.  Another solution is to have the Windows laptop running but closed and out of site and connect to it with some of the tools already mentioned (remote desktop, VNC, or my personal favorite Cord)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could eliminate the Windows device by loading Windows in Parallels.  Another solution is to have the Windows laptop running but closed and out of site and connect to it with some of the tools already mentioned (remote desktop, VNC, or my personal favorite Cord)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez. I get annoyed with one computer. I find USB thumb drives solve all the problems of multiple computer needs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez. I get annoyed with one computer. I find USB thumb drives solve all the problems of multiple computer needs.</p>
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		<title>By: The Shopping Sherpa</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/08/07/reader-question-two-laptops-one-desk/comment-page-1/#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shopping Sherpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IKEA Hacker has some interesting laptop solutions which might help: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ikeahacker.blogspot.com/2007/06/need-laptop-desk-diy-your-own-stand.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ikeahacker.blogspot.com/2007/06/need-laptop-desk-diy-your-own-stand.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IKEA Hacker has some interesting laptop solutions which might help: <a href="http://ikeahacker.blogspot.com/2007/06/need-laptop-desk-diy-your-own-stand.html" rel="nofollow">http://ikeahacker.blogspot.com.....stand.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can afford the desk real estate, Synergy is worth using.  You don&#039;t have to buy any software or a KVM switch and monitor and it&#039;s cross-platform.

It also gives you a shared clipboard if I remember correctly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can afford the desk real estate, Synergy is worth using.  You don&#8217;t have to buy any software or a KVM switch and monitor and it&#8217;s cross-platform.</p>
<p>It also gives you a shared clipboard if I remember correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you opt for the KVM solution (which is deliciously low-tech) be forewarned that the switch recommended in the article has VGA connectors (pretty sure about this, as it looks just like one I had). As far as I know, you&#039;ll need a DVI connector for your MacBook Pro. Make sure to check what connectors your machines and the KVM switch have before you buy!

For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m going to be so glad to finally get a MBP and use Parallels... having a Windows machine just for testing websites practically defines &quot;clutter.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you opt for the KVM solution (which is deliciously low-tech) be forewarned that the switch recommended in the article has VGA connectors (pretty sure about this, as it looks just like one I had). As far as I know, you&#8217;ll need a DVI connector for your MacBook Pro. Make sure to check what connectors your machines and the KVM switch have before you buy!</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;m going to be so glad to finally get a MBP and use Parallels&#8230; having a Windows machine just for testing websites practically defines &#8220;clutter.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Ordway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Ordway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extract the pc laptop as a VM image and use it in VMware Fusion.  Use the pc laptop to hold up the corner of the table.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extract the pc laptop as a VM image and use it in VMware Fusion.  Use the pc laptop to hold up the corner of the table.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just have to comment, your amazon.com leaderboard on the left is showing me ads for nursing bras. On an uncluttering blog.

I think Big Brother is here.

But I am glad to have found your blog. I despise clutter too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just have to comment, your amazon.com leaderboard on the left is showing me ads for nursing bras. On an uncluttering blog.</p>
<p>I think Big Brother is here.</p>
<p>But I am glad to have found your blog. I despise clutter too.</p>
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		<title>By: raisin</title>
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		<dc:creator>raisin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same situation going on, and the best thing I found is a Dell D/Port replicator.  Drop the latitude on the replicator and access it from a kvm or your choice of remote desktop.  The beauty is that you can put the port replicator and the latitude anywhere within reason.  I put mine on a shelf under my desk and access it from my linux machine via vnc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same situation going on, and the best thing I found is a Dell D/Port replicator.  Drop the latitude on the replicator and access it from a kvm or your choice of remote desktop.  The beauty is that you can put the port replicator and the latitude anywhere within reason.  I put mine on a shelf under my desk and access it from my linux machine via vnc.</p>
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		<title>By: Char</title>
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		<dc:creator>Char</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parallels on your Mac will also allow you to run Windows programs, and has the advantage that you don&#039;t have to reboot to use it as you do with Boot Camp.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parallels on your Mac will also allow you to run Windows programs, and has the advantage that you don&#8217;t have to reboot to use it as you do with Boot Camp.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At work, my desktop is Linux.  I use terminal services &amp; RDP to connect to my XP Pro laptop.  Works great.

At home, I have a Linux laptop.  In the basement I have a Mac and a linux box running VMware server.  I use VNC to get into the mac.  It even goes through the login.  I have XP Pro running inside VMware server on the linux box.  I RDP into that.  VNC doesn&#039;t let you get to the login screen in XP Home.

RDP is nice because you get cut&amp;paste.  You should be able to redirect sound as well.  A KVM won&#039;t let you cut &amp; paste.

How about VMware Fusion, Parallels or something similar on the Macintosh?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At work, my desktop is Linux.  I use terminal services &#038; RDP to connect to my XP Pro laptop.  Works great.</p>
<p>At home, I have a Linux laptop.  In the basement I have a Mac and a linux box running VMware server.  I use VNC to get into the mac.  It even goes through the login.  I have XP Pro running inside VMware server on the linux box.  I RDP into that.  VNC doesn&#8217;t let you get to the login screen in XP Home.</p>
<p>RDP is nice because you get cut&#038;paste.  You should be able to redirect sound as well.  A KVM won&#8217;t let you cut &#038; paste.</p>
<p>How about VMware Fusion, Parallels or something similar on the Macintosh?</p>
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		<title>By: nVIR</title>
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		<dc:creator>nVIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try the software &quot;Synergy&quot;, using one mouse and one keyboard for both computers, across the network. I&#039;ve used it for years now, and wouldn&#039;t change it for anything else!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try the software &#8220;Synergy&#8221;, using one mouse and one keyboard for both computers, across the network. I&#8217;ve used it for years now, and wouldn&#8217;t change it for anything else!</p>
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		<title>By: max</title>
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		<dc:creator>max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the other comments that a laptop stand (or two) will help with ergonomics. While a KVM will enable use of a single keyboard and mouse, it still requires a switching action (push a button, hit a keystroke) to move back and forth.

I would recommend looking into Synergy. I use a similar, Mac only solution for my setup: Teleport.

My wireless mouse &amp; keyboard are connected to my iMac on my home desk. When I plug in my MacBook (on laptop stand with external monitor) next to it, I&#039;m able to move the mouse cursor over to the laptop screen and now I&#039;m in control of the MacBook. Move the cursor back to the iMac, I&#039;m controlling it.

Then I bring the laptop to the office, drop on the desk next to the MacPro monitor and do the same thing there!

In addition, I find that Teleport sends _all_ keyboard commands to the active host (unlike VNC solutions). So Expose, Quicksilver, etc. all work seamlessly, regardless of which system I&#039;m controlling.

Hope this helps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the other comments that a laptop stand (or two) will help with ergonomics. While a KVM will enable use of a single keyboard and mouse, it still requires a switching action (push a button, hit a keystroke) to move back and forth.</p>
<p>I would recommend looking into Synergy. I use a similar, Mac only solution for my setup: Teleport.</p>
<p>My wireless mouse &#038; keyboard are connected to my iMac on my home desk. When I plug in my MacBook (on laptop stand with external monitor) next to it, I&#8217;m able to move the mouse cursor over to the laptop screen and now I&#8217;m in control of the MacBook. Move the cursor back to the iMac, I&#8217;m controlling it.</p>
<p>Then I bring the laptop to the office, drop on the desk next to the MacPro monitor and do the same thing there!</p>
<p>In addition, I find that Teleport sends _all_ keyboard commands to the active host (unlike VNC solutions). So Expose, Quicksilver, etc. all work seamlessly, regardless of which system I&#8217;m controlling.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you considered just installing Windoze on your MBP and reducing to one computer? Then you could probably write off the cost of the MBP as a work expense. If you do not need to move back and forth too often, use bootcamp to do it. If you need to go back and forth often, then I hear that parallels works well but I do not have actual experience with that method.

I prefer the BootCamp method as the only time I use Windoze is when I have a specific thing to do in one of the few Windoze only apps that I use, and this creates sort of an ultra productivity environment. No mail, IM, RSS, etc... distractions. Boot up and get it done!

I think that if I were in what sounds to be your situation, I would just use the MBP and keep only the Windoze files I need for the week on the Mac. Use a half hour or so on Mon and Fri to transfer/backup/archive to the Dell, and leave it on a shelf or something the rest of the week.

Hope that is helpful or at least somthing to think about. Uncluttering starts with Reduction, IMHO.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you considered just installing Windoze on your MBP and reducing to one computer? Then you could probably write off the cost of the MBP as a work expense. If you do not need to move back and forth too often, use bootcamp to do it. If you need to go back and forth often, then I hear that parallels works well but I do not have actual experience with that method.</p>
<p>I prefer the BootCamp method as the only time I use Windoze is when I have a specific thing to do in one of the few Windoze only apps that I use, and this creates sort of an ultra productivity environment. No mail, IM, RSS, etc&#8230; distractions. Boot up and get it done!</p>
<p>I think that if I were in what sounds to be your situation, I would just use the MBP and keep only the Windoze files I need for the week on the Mac. Use a half hour or so on Mon and Fri to transfer/backup/archive to the Dell, and leave it on a shelf or something the rest of the week.</p>
<p>Hope that is helpful or at least somthing to think about. Uncluttering starts with Reduction, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: William Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got a similar problem.  I have three machines: a mac tower, a macbook pro, and a windows box.  As a web developer, I&#039;m always wanting to tweak my projects at different times, so I like to keep my project files on my macbook, but at the office, it makes sense to use the tower since it has bigger screens.  My solution when I&#039;m at the office is to use my macbook simply as a fileserver, then use my two towers (mac and windows) for development.  I use synergy between the two towers, and couldn&#039;t be happier with how it works.

For your situation, you could do something similar.  Sit the two laptops side by side, and use synergy to control them both.  This eliminates any kvm hardware or additional wires between the machines.

Hope that helps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a similar problem.  I have three machines: a mac tower, a macbook pro, and a windows box.  As a web developer, I&#8217;m always wanting to tweak my projects at different times, so I like to keep my project files on my macbook, but at the office, it makes sense to use the tower since it has bigger screens.  My solution when I&#8217;m at the office is to use my macbook simply as a fileserver, then use my two towers (mac and windows) for development.  I use synergy between the two towers, and couldn&#8217;t be happier with how it works.</p>
<p>For your situation, you could do something similar.  Sit the two laptops side by side, and use synergy to control them both.  This eliminates any kvm hardware or additional wires between the machines.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Eubanks Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Eubanks Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have an iCurve or similar stand (the newer Elevator is also nice) and a KVM switch, one laptop could go on top (probably the one that you&#039;re more likely to want dual monitors with) and the other underneath, which is supposed to be space for a keyboard. this &quot;stacking&quot; would keep them from touching-- thus preventing heat issues, etc.-- but would minimize the footprint.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have an iCurve or similar stand (the newer Elevator is also nice) and a KVM switch, one laptop could go on top (probably the one that you&#8217;re more likely to want dual monitors with) and the other underneath, which is supposed to be space for a keyboard. this &#8220;stacking&#8221; would keep them from touching&#8211; thus preventing heat issues, etc.&#8211; but would minimize the footprint.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Houchin</title>
		<link>http://unclutterer.com/2007/08/07/reader-question-two-laptops-one-desk/comment-page-1/#comment-2320</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Houchin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do something similar with my Mac desktop and windows laptop at work. Since I have a big screen and nice keyboard on the mac, I put the laptop to the side and connect to it using MS&#039;s remote desktop. Screen redraw isn&#039;t as fast as working on the machine itself, but its certainly usable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do something similar with my Mac desktop and windows laptop at work. Since I have a big screen and nice keyboard on the mac, I put the laptop to the side and connect to it using MS&#8217;s remote desktop. Screen redraw isn&#8217;t as fast as working on the machine itself, but its certainly usable.</p>
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